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Bill: P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alleanza Radicale - NCD
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4450
Description[?]:
| Camilla Bontempi, deputy-Leader of AR: "Mr Speaker, once again we must show our committment to defend the rights of the workers, employees, men and women which work to live and that make live their employers and entreprises. We cannot let them under the single and subjective opinion of their employers. Too much easy to talk of "right of the employers" when their position is well advantaged than the workers. Equality, equality in the contractual force, this is the key! And until for the single and biased opinion of an enployers no body will be really free to strike for his right... there will never equality and so, the rights of the employers become simply privileges! So, talking about privileges, I think it is due to talk also about the enormous bonus of menagers, CEOs, businessowners, etc... which sottract resource which can be used for the workers, for entreprises' worker social activities, for bonuses for the employees, and so on. Not only the managers make run a company, also motivated workers can enhance the entreprises' production. And why people who work into the same compnay has no the right to negotiate the salary of each one of us? A right that often a worker doesn't has, forced often to accept a salary determined by the employers. It is right? No at all! The representatives of the workers should have the right to determine as well the salary of the employers, managers, CEOs and so on. Equity and Fairness! This is the kay of a harmonious society! Thank you" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Current: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Proposed: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on a salary cap.
Old value:: The government has no stance on a salary cap.
Current: Labour unions and organizations of employers negotiate a salary cap.
Proposed: Labour unions and organizations of employers negotiate a salary cap.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:40:31, September 01, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | Francesa Vespa-Baldassare, ULD Secretary And you say that you aren't communists. |
| Date | 15:11:54, September 01, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | It's simple: In a communist regime there won't be employers. |
| Date | 19:15:08, September 01, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | Francesca Vespa-Baldassare Say the apparent "socialists". In a state without employers, there are no employees. And in a state without employees, everyone is funded by the state. And in a country where the state is the sponsor of everything, everyone is aware that it isn't worth voting for socialists because there is no food in the shops, or anywhere, for that. And when there is no food, then there is, well, no people, be it due to a civil war between the people and the psychopaths leading the pathological state built on lies of madmen, or the starvation that the left likes to advocate for so much. |
| Date | 19:23:34, September 01, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | But we aren't outlawing any employers, ms. Vespa-Baldassare, look at the bill! We were just underlining the deep difference between a communist policy and a socialist one. There's nothing about communism in this bill. The right of strike and the introduction of a salary cap (decided after a discussion of the parts, not by an evil communist government!) is just market regulaton, not a form of political subversion... With your first sentence, I believe that you fear any form of regulation of the market, always ready to call who wants to do that a "communist"... I wonder why, perhaps, I think to know the answer. Gioia Garofalo, PdSI Secretary |
| Date | 23:08:05, September 01, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | Francesca Vespa-Baldassare Then what was your previous statement for? The tone appeared to be that of praise, more than anything. I doubt that it was just a cheeky comment. |
| Date | 10:48:09, September 02, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | "Francesa Vespa-Baldassare, ULD Secretary And you say that you aren't communists." That's what you said to our collegues of AR, right? Again, I was just underlining how fast you are to mark every market regulation as "communism", even if communism is something completely different - so I made a fast example, with just a bit of irony. The cheeky thing is your obsessive subjection to the dictates of neo-liberalism. |
| Date | 14:43:31, September 02, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | Francesca Vespa-Baldassare Well, I talked about your clique of thieves as a whole. And, thank you for your comment, because you made me realize that if anything, the cheeky thing would be your obsession with stealing money from Istalians. The cheeky thing is that you don't have the balls to be honest and call yourselves who you are; communists. |
| Date | 14:59:03, September 02, 2018 CET | From | Partito del Socialismo Istaliano - F.P. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | If we were communists, we would've called for a revolution to break your so-called liberal government (read: badly covered corporate fascism); then we would hang some people and build a new society. But we didn't do that, and we never will: we believe in parliamentary democracy; see? We aren't communists: we want to achieve victory of the field of elections, and I am pretty sure that we will prevail. Good August. - Gioia Garofani |
| Date | 19:26:04, September 05, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4447 - Workers Right Protection Act (OOC: correct) |
| Message | OOC: looks like this'll pass due to PdA getting deactivated due to inactivity. And then, we will overturn this when we'll have a majority. THen you'll return this to the original state. Then, once again, we will vote to return to the prior state of things, and strikes will be an endless spiral. I love how they're the hottest topic in the history of Istalian politics. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 232 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 240 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Real-life places should not be referenced in Particracy. |
| Random quote: "Law is mind without reason." - Aristotle |