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Bill: Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socjaldemokraci Walruzyjscy
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4460
Description[?]:
Expressing concern for the state of our democracy, we the signatiories of the following petition, filed on 18 February 4459 demand the absolute prohibition on paramilitary organizations. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are allowed but are heavily regulated by the government.
Current: Paramilitaries are allowed but are heavily regulated by the government.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:09:22, September 23, 2018 CET | From | Ruch Libertariański | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Why we should take away people right to self defence? If people can found it from own pocket and don't want run revolution i dont see anything wrong. Some people treats it simply as a hobby. Why you want ban it? They're just shouldn't get goverment founding and force people to join them. |
Date | 23:20:49, September 23, 2018 CET | From | Reforma | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Mr Marshall, The anti-liberal populists in the Sejm once again show that they don't care about efficient proposals - like letting paramilitary organisations exist in order to increase the defensive potential of our country. Instead they care about restricting our freedoms, they are scared of self-organising citizens. Łukasz Zaworny |
Date | 06:54:36, September 24, 2018 CET | From | Razem | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Mr Marshall, The libertarians' failure to understand the threat of rogue paramilitaries to the rule of law is deeply troubling and irresponsible. Razem would strongly support a measure to heavily regulate and if necessary, ban paramilitaries. We are a democratic nation with a democratised army and have no need to indulge libertarian paranoia on that account. Mikolaj Sikorski Razem Leader |
Date | 08:39:10, September 24, 2018 CET | From | Ruch Libertariański | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Paranoia is forbidding people to join paramilitary organizations. If they would like to rebel, it would have happened long ago. These are just civilians who want to prepare for defense, meetings of such groups take place several times a month, these people have to work to earn a living. They are not a vengeance for a professional army. How does the government want to win people's confidence if they do not trust them? |
Date | 15:54:57, September 24, 2018 CET | From | Razem | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Mr Marshall, I apologise for using the term paranoid. Still, what need is there to "prepare for defence" as we have a democratised national army which is perfectly able to protect our borders. Who would the paramilitaries be defending and against whom? Mikolaj Sikorski Razem Leader |
Date | 19:12:37, September 25, 2018 CET | From | Syndykalistów Partia Valruziana | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Mr. Marshall, We at the SPV are skeptical of this. Paramilitaries are not a single group, they all have different objectives. However, we cannot categorize them all into the factor of them fighting for us, for some may be against the government. We will abstain. |
Date | 19:36:31, September 25, 2018 CET | From | Czas Patriotów | To | Debating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459 |
Message | Mr Marshall, When we will be in risk of war, we can do a mass recrutation and paramilitary groups won't be neeeed. We vote no for now. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 263 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 159 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 43 |
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