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Bill: Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459

Details

Submitted by[?]: Socjaldemokraci Walruzyjscy

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 4460

Description[?]:

Expressing concern for the state of our democracy, we the signatiories of the following petition, filed on 18 February 4459 demand the absolute prohibition on paramilitary organizations.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:09:22, September 23, 2018 CET
From Ruch Libertariański
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageWhy we should take away people right to self defence? If people can found it from own pocket and don't want run revolution i dont see anything wrong. Some people treats it simply as a hobby. Why you want ban it? They're just shouldn't get goverment founding and force people to join them.

Date23:20:49, September 23, 2018 CET
From Reforma
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageMr Marshall,

The anti-liberal populists in the Sejm once again show that they don't care about efficient proposals - like letting paramilitary organisations exist in order to increase the defensive potential of our country. Instead they care about restricting our freedoms, they are scared of self-organising citizens.

Łukasz Zaworny

Date06:54:36, September 24, 2018 CET
From Razem
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageMr Marshall,

The libertarians' failure to understand the threat of rogue paramilitaries to the rule of law is deeply troubling and irresponsible. Razem would strongly support a measure to heavily regulate and if necessary, ban paramilitaries. We are a democratic nation with a democratised army and have no need to indulge libertarian paranoia on that account.

Mikolaj Sikorski
Razem Leader

Date08:39:10, September 24, 2018 CET
From Ruch Libertariański
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageParanoia is forbidding people to join paramilitary organizations. If they would like to rebel, it would have happened long ago. These are just civilians who want to prepare for defense, meetings of such groups take place several times a month, these people have to work to earn a living. They are not a vengeance for a professional army. How does the government want to win people's confidence if they do not trust them?

Date15:54:57, September 24, 2018 CET
From Razem
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageMr Marshall,

I apologise for using the term paranoid. Still, what need is there to "prepare for defence" as we have a democratised national army which is perfectly able to protect our borders. Who would the paramilitaries be defending and against whom?

Mikolaj Sikorski
Razem Leader

Date19:12:37, September 25, 2018 CET
From Syndykalistów Partia Valruziana
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageMr. Marshall,

We at the SPV are skeptical of this. Paramilitaries are not a single group, they all have different objectives. However, we cannot categorize them all into the factor of them fighting for us, for some may be against the government.

We will abstain.

Date19:36:31, September 25, 2018 CET
From Czas Patriotów
ToDebating the Paramilitary Ban Act of 4459 - Ustawa o zakazie organizacji o charakterze paramilitarnym, 4459
MessageMr Marshall,

When we will be in risk of war, we can do a mass recrutation and paramilitary groups won't be neeeed. We vote no for now.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 263

no
  

Total Seats: 159

abstain
 

Total Seats: 43


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