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Bill: Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Government of Tropica

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 4471

Description[?]:

We hereby ask the congress to allow the spending of 20 000 000 000 BLD, in order to create Recyc-Baltusia, a society that would enforce and apply mandatory recycling for both residents and entreprises.

We explain that we did not just develop a recycling facilities, we also made it as environmentally friends as possible, which required a lot of money.

We have 20 major cities across the countries and we had to organise 6 recycling facilities for every cities. So we have to command the construction of 120 facility. We shall have facility for Paper, 1 for cardboard, 1 for glass, 1 for Metal, 1 for alluminium and 1 for plastic, for every major cities. And we must not forget the recycling of used Batteries and the creation of Deposite point, to help resident get rid of their old electronical articles or Dangerous materials. And since we did not want to have any impact on the environment, we took the liberty of commanding electronic trucks, to transports recyclable materials from your Green bin to the nearby facilities. Hoverer, because we have big cities, 1 facility and 1 deposite point are not going to suffise, so we will have 5 facilities of for every categories and 3 deposite points per cities

So, we have to pay for the construction of 600 recycling facilities, 60 Deposite point, 22 500 electric trucks (37 per facilities, 5 per deposite points) and 35 581 863 bins of each type, (Green for Glass, Brown for Cardboard, Blue for Metal, Yellow for plastic, White for Paper and Purple for aluminium.) for a total of 213 491 179 bins.)

Considering the construction of these facilities around the cities will cost us around from 5 000 000 (average) per city, we going to need 600 000 000 BLD to fund the construction of every facilities.
Considering electrics Trucks costs will varies from 250 000 BLD to 370 000 BLD, we are going to need 8 325 000 000 BLD to buy thoses trucks. We must also consider spending on recharge station and reserve Batteries to make sure our trucks don't die during the job
Considering Green bin costs 32 BLD, Brown bins cost 21 BLD, Blue bins cost 25 BLD, Yellow bins cost 27 BLD, White bins cost 19 BLD and Purple bins will cost 23 BLD. which cost us a total of 5 321 533 861 for the Bins.
Then we must consider the payement of employees, who are unionized and will ask for an average salary of 70 000 BLD per years. And we should count around 25 employes per facilities, so 1 050 000 000 BLD in term of anual salary
on that we have to add the cost of equipment and others things. and we come to a facture of 19 806 760 000 BLD. out of which 14.2 should be be used to create Recyc-Baltusia. the Anual Cost of operation, which mainly compromise the salary should come around 1 400 000 000 BLD.

Currently the Departement have only 7 500 000 000 BLD, so We can pay for the operation, but there is no we can cover the start-up cost.

We hereby ask the congress to give us additionnal funds, so that we can start our operations.

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:22:01, October 14, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageFor Further information
the Congress recently passed adopted some environmental reforms, from the PLCA. found here. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=583725

one of the articles say : The government funds recycling facilities and enforces mandatory recycling for residents, commercial enterprise, and industry.

So, we can't rely on private entreprises to fund recycling, it must be funded by the government.

Date19:01:11, October 16, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
Messagesince no one debate this, we repeat.
Our minister is asking for permission to spend around 20 000 000 000 BLD, which is more then her minister can afford.

Date19:25:52, October 16, 2018 CET
FromNational Democratic Party (NDP)
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageNeed we remind the PLCA that our country already enforces strict environmental protections and regulations? The UDP is all for the environment, but this asks to funnel billions of dollars into mandatory recycling efforts, efforts that we feel could simply be accomplished by the private sector, along with moderate regulation of course. This is simply just asking to divert funds from areas which direly need it to something that is already in good shape. We vehemently vote no and encourage the rest of our party to reject this negligent spending.

Senator Dave Rockwell (UDP- Ralston)

Date19:26:03, October 16, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageOOC: Sorry been sorting out settings up my Party lol... I'll start some debates. As this isnt a budget Bill it wouldnt be in front of Congress for debate; it would be at Committee

IC: Madam Secretary

I fail to understand the question. You are stating that you wish for the Department of Environment & Tourism invest twenty billion Dollars into this environmental initiative; something we believe the private sector should be handling period. But ignoring that, I need you to specify; you have seven and a half billion in your annual budget, why are you not investing a chunk of your budget over a number of years rather then trying to extort the Baltusian taxpayer for a green scheme for an additional twelve and a half billion outside of your governments official budget, in fact why wasn't this brought up privately with the Treasury Secretary to see if funds could be drawn from other departments?

Senator Charles Pickens (R-NE)
Senate Minority Deputy Whip
Member, Senate Budget Committee

Date19:58:06, October 16, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageOOC : if the Secretary is question, I do believe she can answer question... at the very least.

To our collegues in the room. We remain you that the PLCA is a faction of UDP too and that we do not have the right to contract a private business to fund theses, the law order that the government fund recycling facilities. We did not spare a portion o our budget over the years because we believe this would draw criticism of incompetant and questionable administration to the Department of environment, who has been the most neglected over the recents history.

We already asked if the funds could be drawn from other department, but apparently this was qualified as a waste of money, I'd be relieved if any ministry would come to our rescue, right as we in a pickle, files are pilling up, we are already engaged in other spending, but we have this big facture waiting for us at the end of the road.

Yugi green
Senator of Westbrooks

Date20:00:53, October 16, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
Messagejust to be certain. I want to sure the congress is alarmed that the secretary could be arrested, for not respecting a law adopted by the congress. for exemple, if a law mandate the secretary of industry to create a national energy compagny and the secretary refuse to buy one or to construct one, he could be arrested. Our secretary face the same situation, but the problem is not that she don't want do it, its that she can't do it.

Yugi green
Senator of Westbrooks

Date00:49:45, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr. President

If I may be so bold, if communism and tyranny don't go hand in hand I encourage my honorable colleague from the great state of Westbrooks to inform the People's Democratic Party of Jelbania and the former Communist regime of Deltaria. I do believe their chosen political system if called 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat', so I don't think they quite got the memo.

Senator Julian Sweetwater (R-AN)

Date00:50:06, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageOOC: Sorry wrong thread XD I have a different post for here

Date01:21:39, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageSenator Green

I was asking the Secretary herself as I would expect her to be able to defend her own department's spending demand, but evidently you'll have to do as her errand boy. So I'll ask the question directly to you, why was this not brought up privately with the Secretary of the Treasury and the President, and if they said no, may I ask why you are going clearly against their own wishes and asking for more money from Congress. Does that mean that the Secretary is willing going against the will of her Commander in Chief and the Secretary that directly accounts for the money from this Congress?

Senator Charles Pickens (R-NE)
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date01:50:20, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMadam Secretary

I do direct this question directly to you, so I do need confirmation on this. You are requesting that Congress authorize an additional 12.5 Billion Dollars in spending for your department. Now as we currently run a 15 Billion Dollar surplus that won't affect the Treasury all that heavily. What my concern is, is that because this isn't an official budget request being put before Congress, I just need clarification here; are you requesting a one time lump sum payment of 12.5 Billion Dollars, on top of the 7.5 Billion dollars your Department already has and you plan on spending every penny of that money this fiscal, ignoring anything else, to pay for this little "plan" of yours, or this is a permanent increase to your Department's budget?

The reason I ask, is that this is Authorization Bill, for additional spending is most definitely going to be a one time thing, because of it's nature, if you are demanding additional funds, you do understand your party, will have to introduce such budgetary measures into an official Budget, that will be put before the House and Senate Budget and Finance Committees and will need to be passed through this Congress.

You are aware of that correct?

Senator Charles Pickens (R-NE)
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date02:12:11, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr Pickens.

I plan to spend every single penny I demande on the construction of Recyc-Baltusia. and this is not one of our little plan, We know we have to fund recycling facilities, because the congress adopted a law that demand that my government fund it, and i tried to came with the most environmentally responsable plan. We could have divided our facilities by at least 6 and collect all the waste in the same

I don't plan to ask for more funds for all major projects. Right we need more funds. but it will not the case.,in the futur. if I could, I would have asked my collegues to send some of her funds, but Sarah-Rafaelle also all need all funds she is allowed to spend.

This is an Authorization, for one time spending. nothing more

Date02:14:52, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageOCC : forgot to said it came from Maya Darklight

Date02:49:42, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageThank you for that clarification Madam Secretary.

As I said, since the government is running a surplus, should this Authorization Bill pass, it will deplete it for this fiscal year, but it won't evaporate it. But I have two very critical follow up questions if that's the case.

I am quoting you directly on this mind you, so i need you to confirm for me these are your exact words. According to an interview with the Johnston Post. According to your own words "The department of environment only have 7 500 000 000 BLD in hand, and sadly. the spending we have to do to establish Recyc-Baltusia, since it would be illegal to not spent this money as we are ordered by the congress, would cost more then 25 000 000 000 BLD." Twenty five Billion Dollars... which is five billion more then your current ask.

My questions are, why are you only requesting 12.5 Billion when the ask should indeed be for 17.5 Billion, and further, and more critically how will you fund the rest of your programs, initiatives and the Department itself when you are literally throwing every penny you have at Recyc-Baltusia. Are you not going to pay your staff or employees for the entire fiscal year?

You understand Madam Secretary I find this very suspect which leads me to think two things; one you are not going to invest the total 20 Billion you have, because to run your department and start up this program which the government should never have implemented to begin with, you are short changing yourself and running your department dry and ironically not even going to have the funds to total fund it to begin with. If thats the case will you be coming before this Committee against next year asking for an additional five Billion dollars, another twelve billion dollars, and if that's the case, how do we know this will not be the first and only ask?

Also I would like you to answer the question I posed earlier; if you could not get the Secretary of the Treasury to authorize this in her annual budget, that evidently means the President does not support your budgetary increase, and based on the fact that many of your own Democratic colleagues are voting against this they clearly do not support the funding. Are you willing going against your Commander in Chief and against the wills of the Cabinet by coming to this Congress and asking us to bail out your idea?

Senator Charles Pickens (R-NE)
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date03:07:29, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr Speaker

we need to clarify, that 25 000 000 000 was an estimation. we knew it was going to cost more then our ministry could afford, hoverer we has estimated the facilities to be much more costly.

I think you misunderstand. The current cost of the project is 19 806 760 000 BLD, we are requesting 20 000 000 000 BLD. so that we can fund the project, without seriously gutting the operation of the department.

We tried to present our project to the secretary of finance, but she said this was a waste of money. I don't get why the current president does not support me, surely he must understand that I am in a dangerous position, ordered to create a project, when I don't have the fund to complete it.

I will not come in front of this committe again, I don't believe in interrupting the working of parliamentaries, I only came here, because I have no choice.

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Date03:28:05, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMadam Secretary again thank you for the clarifications it is greatly appreciated.

However this nagging feeling won't quite go away.

I'm not going to presume your education, experience or background prior to being nominated and confirmed by this Senate as our Environment and Tourism Secretary. But in the spirit of full disclosure prior to me being elected Senator for the Great State of New Egelion, I was an accountant, and by all tell, a pretty damn good one.

You are asking for a fairly substanial boost of money, that is not supported by as it turns out all of your Democratic colleague. Leaving that aside for the time being, your math is what truly concerns me.

You are admitting that of the twenty billion you will be given, should this Congress approve your Authorization Bill that you will set aside 193,240,000 Dollars for the operations of the Department of Environment and Tourism. Are you openly admitting to this Congress and this Committee in particular that you only need, 2.6% of your total operating budget, that this Congress gives you in annual spending, to physically enforce environment and waste regulations, protect the environment and promote our tourism industry as is part of your mandate. Are you admitting to this Committee, that you only need a fraction of the money currently assigned to you to do your job?

If that's the case, Madam Secretary, why in the dickens are we giving you seven and a half billion dollars in taxpayer money every year, if from the sounds of it, two hundred million will do for all your needs? Again I ask, are you short changing yourself, or are you deliberately lying to this Committee on the needs of your department?

As for the issue of the President and the Secretary of the Treasury, if you do not feel supported by the administration, why are you still apart of it? Are you willing to resign your position, or do you plan on staying in a Cabinet that evidently, you do not even get along with?

Senator Charles Pickens
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date04:24:16, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr Pickens,

if we only needed 2 % of our budget, we would not in front of the budget committee begging for extra funds. It would have already been by this time, but like we were ton

Right now, we only have 1 plan ty, and its to complete Recyc-Baltusia, to respect the law which has been adopted by the congress. Also, its always good to have more money in case some accidents happen. Hoverer we recently gutted the Security Budget. and we'Ll have to hope every facilities is builded without accident. So we are going to hope that nothing goes wrong. It was supposed to be a security, we'll do without it.

Also, I ask that your calculate numbers correctly. we have 7 500 000 000 BLD and We need 20 000 000 000.

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Date04:42:06, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMadam Secretary

Are you admitting that you are willing gutting the portion of your budget that goes to workers safety and 'HOPING' that nothing goes wrong, I'm sure the workers are glad to know you have their back.

Let's cut the hogwash and get to the brass tacks. I'm going to ask two simple questions and I expect two SIMPLE answers.

How much money do you need this fiscal year to fully operate your Department and in further years after this program is implemented, and two how much money will it cost, to the dime, to implement Recyc-Baltusia?

Senator Charles Pickens (R-NE)
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date04:53:48, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageAnd to be honest here. I hate this committee. its discourageing. I already said I needed a certain sum for the operating, this sum was 20 000 000 000 BLD, with a small security of 193,240,000 BLD like you calculated, but the fact remain that is far larger then my annual budget, If i was ready to GUT my department, I would not be present, here, asking for funds. And in fact, no minister should ever present requests like these to the congress. this is exceptional.


And I did not feeling talking about the gutten Security in the congress, because our ministry dropped it.

I dunno how I am going to respect the law if this bill does not pass. I really don't know. Concerning the president and secretary of finance, I believe they are not helping me, but I will make all my time as secretary of environment.

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Date05:00:12, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr Speaker

I hate this operation. I would never have gutten the sécurity if I had the choice.

Like I said, the annual cost of Recyc-Baltusia shall be around 1 700 000 000 BLD, per years. This sum take into Salaries and several other spendings, for exemplem reparation of Equipement.

Hoverer we need 20 000 000 000 Right now, if we want to build Recyc Baltusia without Gutting the environment department or leaching funds from another ministry

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Date05:21:53, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMadam Secretary

I would appear we are finally getting somewhere as I have gotten some honest and blunt answers finally. Speaking on behalf of this Committee, Committees like this exist to make sure that Secretaries, bureaucrats and other politicians don't take Congress for a spin. It is an integral part of our democracy; if you don't like it, you don't have to be here, but I would assume you would rather have the chance to defend yourself.

As we have been at this for nearly twelve I must commend you on sticking to your guns if nothing else. It's commendable. However, until I am satisfied that we have all the answers, we must continue.

You have answered the question on the operating cost of 1.7 Billion per year, thank you for that. So to confirm then, adding in Recyc-Baltusia to your existing budget, you would need your budget permenantly increased to 9.2 Billion to maintain current services you use, on top of that Recyc-Baltusia program... is that correct, or are you saying you'll be using your existing budget to pay for it, and if that's the case, which programs are you going to be axing?

Another lingering issue I have however, reading your own work is that two sums are popping up, so I need confirmation on which sum is the correct one, if you'll indulge me.

It says you need 19.8 Billion Dollars for Recyc-Baltusia, or rather 14.2 Billion to physically start the program. Which figure is more correct, is it 19.8 or 14.2, and if it is 14.2 is the additional 5.6 Billion a buffer for lack of a better term

Senator Charles Pickens
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date05:47:01, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr Pickens, did you ever listened to what I said when I presented my request ?

I'll forget that, since I am a gentle Lady and always assume that everyone is nice and good.

14.2 is what we need to buy every household their bins, to buy the trucks, to construct the facilies, but sadly it does not cover ever cost, we'll need additionnal materials like computers, fire prevent system, security system and etc. its these additional system that will cost around 5 billions BLD. I guess we could start it with 14.2, but there would not security system, no fire alarms, it would not be secure.

It is truth that if nothing change, the department of environment will run deficits of 1.5 Billions BLD annualty, but that does not take into account the activities of recyc-Baltusia. This corporation is going to collect, assemble and sell recyclable metariels, and since our recyclable materials will be of higher quality to the six-stream system we've created. We believe Recyc Baltusia might turn in acceptable profits for many years to come. That is the reason why we chosen to develop a six-stream system.

Also, if I might add, there is no way I will not complete this project, I'm going to find a solution.

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Date05:53:55, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageSince, we note that we are not going to receive the authorization, I will not answer other question. I will have to get to my plan d.

I really hope this congress would see the situation I am in, but it was talking to dead ears. This committee is a waste of time and money.

Maya DarkLight
Secretary of evironment
United states of Baltusia.

Date05:58:40, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMadam Secretary

I have both read, reread and then read again your proposal and I do not take kindly to the thought I am not taking you seriously. You are a Secretary of the United State Government, coming before Congress requesting what can be best described a two year advance on your budget to fund a program. I want you to understand the seriousness of this request as you sit before this Committee. I do not take playing with the Taxpayer's money kindly, so I am making sure I understand where it is going before we authorize it. My questions are designed to get truth and answers, and to make sense of your proposal. Period.

Moving on.

On your first point; based on your ask then, you need 19.8 Billion to get this program started. That's fine, thats the figure I wanted to know, not doing anything halfway, to do it properly. Now with that said; based on your own figures, that means even if we gave you a cheque for 12.5 Billion, and assuming you need the rest of your budget to physically run your department, and yes I am willing to give you the benefit of that doubt, it means you still need an additional 7.3 Billion Dollars to get this program running from the ground up in go. Even if you only want the initial 14.2 Billion, you are still short, THAT is my point. So I have a question and I will get to it in a moment.

I'm only asking for confirmation on your second point; are you stating, simply for the record, to cover the cost of Recyc-Baltusia, you need an additional injection in every budget of 1.7 Billion per year, thats all. If thats your ask, thats fine that comes with actual budget negotiations and with talks with the Treasury Secretary, I am only seeking confirmation. So again; with Recyc-Baltusia coming into affect; until it is able to run a profit, do you need additional funds for your department to feasably be able to work.

Now for my other, and much more important question; if you need 14.2 Billion or preferably, by your own admission, the full 19.8 Billion, why did you not request that straight from Congress that way you can actually finish the program instead of short changing yourself, and need to come back here, in a years time, for the remaining balance you will inevitably need, which based on your own figures, will absolutely be necessary.

Senator Charles Pickens
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date06:07:47, October 17, 2018 CET
From Socialist Party of Baltusia (SPB)
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageI'd like to, first of all, thank this committee for the hard work. Senator Pickens, Secretary Darklight, it's a pleasure to hear you debate in this very solemn and democratic instance.

I must say, the Secretary of Treasure has very direct orders from the Executive to study the controversial Recyc-Baltusia Project. Sadly the results of this study have not been conclusive and the Executive is having a hard time to understand. I am sure you, Madame Secretary, and the rest of Senators present, are completely aware that this project would cost the State approximately 2,5% of the National Budget, which is close to the annual budget of the Department of Trade and Industry.

We really believe in a cheaper solution. We understand how important it is to fund this project is to the Baltusian environment, but it cannot go on as it is. The opinion of Baltusian citizens matter, and many of them think of Recyc-Baltusia as a corrupt project. This is not because we don't trust you, Madame Secretary. But they don't understand, we don't understand. And that's worrying, to say the least.

I am confident we will find a solution and it will prosper. But as for Recyc-Baltusia, the opinion of the Executive and the Department I humbly lead is that it must be shut down.

Again, thank you all for your commitment. And thank you Secretary Darklight for your hard work.

Cecily Ortobbya,
Secretary of Treasury
United States of Baltusia.

Date06:09:42, October 17, 2018 CET
From Socialist Party of Baltusia (SPB)
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageI'd like to, first of all, thank this committee for the hard work. Senator Pickens, Secretary Darklight, it's a pleasure to hear you debate in this very solemn and democratic instance.

I must say, the Secretary of Treasure has very direct orders from the Executive to study the controversial Recyc-Baltusia Project. Sadly the results of this study have not been conclusive and the Executive is having a hard time to understand. I am sure you, Madame Secretary, and the rest of Senators present, are completely aware that this project would cost the State approximately 2,5% of the National Budget, which is close to the annual budget of the Department of Trade and Industry.

We really believe in a cheaper solution. We understand how important it is to fund this project is to the Baltusian environment, but it cannot go on as it is. The opinion of Baltusian citizens matter, and many of them think of Recyc-Baltusia as a corrupt project. This is not because we don't trust you, Madame Secretary. But they don't understand, we don't understand. And that's worrying, to say the least.

I am confident we will find a solution and it will prosper. But as for Recyc-Baltusia, the opinion of the Executive and the Department I humbly lead is that it must be shut down.

Again, thank you all for your commitment. And thank you Secretary Darklight for your hard work.

Cecily Ortobbya,
Secretary of Treasury
United States of Baltusia.

Date06:11:50, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageThank you Madam Secretary

With that I do believe I can ask the Chairman to adjourn this meeting. Secretary Darklight, thank you for your time, and your patience with my questions. Secretary Ortobbya, always a pleasure, I look forward to you being in front of this Committee for your next budget proposal, as do my friends on the House Budget Committee.

Senator Charles Pickens
Member, Senate Finance Committee

Date06:17:08, October 17, 2018 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
MessageMr Speaker -- (Yugi Green speaking) Seeing as the secretary recently quitted the room and is not present in the room anymore

Maybe we should abort this question, because I don't questioning an empty chair

Now, Mr Darklight is quite inexperimented, and maybe she did not expressed correctly. but I think she was asking for 20 additional Billions BLD and not 12.5 billions.

For the second question, We could get an answer ourselves by summoning president of compagnies who used recycled wasted and ask them what price they are ready to pay for the recycled materials they need. If you give you time, If you need, my assistant can start to study the prices of the market and gives you an answer and maybe I'll be able to convice Miss Darklight to answer the last question of senator charles Pickens.

Why we don't take a pause ?

Yugi green
Senator of Westbrooks


Date06:26:01, October 17, 2018 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Spending autorization : Recyc-Baltuasia.
Message*Senator Pickens sits back down, a serious expression on his face*

Senator Green

I hope you understand, that 20 Billion Dollars is significantly more money, and in fact you are asking for, what can be described, as a three year advance on the Department of Environment and Tourism. While this... 'simplifes' many of the other issues; we now have the absolutely giant issue, that you are asking for 20 Billion Dollars in one lump sum, which would push this nation into a five billion dollar deficit just to pay for the project. That is a massive ask.

I am a patient man, and I have all the time in the world, so I'll humor your request Senator.

If the Chair allows it, we will give you time, to figure this situation out and report back, but I'll be perfectly honest with you; I will never recommend we authorize any bill payment that would put this nation into a deficit, and I have little doubt the rest of my colleagues agree with me.

Take your time Senator Green, we'll be waiting.

Senator Charles Pickens
Member, Senate Finance Committee

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    Random fact: The people in your nation don't like inactive parties. When you often abstain from voting for a bill, they will dislike your party and your visibility to the electorate will decrease significantly. Low visibility will means you are likely to lose seats. So keep in mind: voting Yes or No is always better than Abstaining.

    Random quote: "An extremely credible source has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud." - Donald Trump

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