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Bill: Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2

Details

Submitted by[?]: Brethrenist Party of Gaduridos (PHdG)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4485

Description[?]:

Its time to start moving our Party's Minutes to the floor. To this end, we propose the following legislative changes to the Parliament, that they may take them up and vote on them, but so that we may also go on the record and establish a voting record.

-Tina Calderone, Leader of the PHdG

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:26:47, November 14, 2018 CET
FromBrethrenist Party of Gaduridos (PHdG)
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageWe call for the complete abandonment of biological and chemical weapons programs, as well as landmines in the name of peace and civility. We believe that these weapons of war are designed specifically to create non-lethal casualties, which makes war more grisly than it already is. We call on all Parties with a conscience and an attitude toward peace to vote for these proposals as we will when we have votes in the Parliament.

-Tina Calderone, Leader, PHdG

Date11:41:04, November 14, 2018 CET
FromGran Partido Nacional
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageFrankly, the proposals made here are utopian and absurd. It's great that the Brethrenists have principles but these principles should be applied to the individual not the state's military.

Andre Saintilus, Leader of the Grand National Party

Date15:51:46, November 14, 2018 CET
FromConservative Party
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageWe second the rational of the Grand National Party. This handicaps the military when dealing with criminal regimes who will use these weapons.

Amos Lowe, Conservative Party Leader

Date16:58:01, November 14, 2018 CET
FromBrethrenist Party of Gaduridos (PHdG)
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageThe Brethrenists are not sure how us using the same weapons preferred by admittedly "criminal regimes" makes us any better than those regimes. Surely the Conservative Leader doesn't mean to suggest that.

But it calls to mind, "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

We yield.

-Tina Calderone, Leader of the PHdG

Date17:41:18, November 14, 2018 CET
FromGaduridos Progressive Movement
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageWe believe that if we allow out military to use these weapons if another uses it first, it will deter the enemy from using it in the first place since it would mean the possibility of us using it back.

Date19:14:11, November 14, 2018 CET
FromGran Partido Nacional
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageA criminal regime is marked by more than simply its choice of weapons. States who pose immediate and realistic threats to our existence must be dealt with in whatever way possible. Nothing should be ruled out on abstract moral grounds.

Andre Saintilus, Leader of the Grand National Party

Date19:16:39, November 15, 2018 CET
FromBrethrenist Party of Gaduridos (PHdG)
ToDebating the Brethrenist Positions Proposals No. 2
MessageWe disagree that the road to peace is paved with more weapons.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 117

no
    

Total Seats: 312

abstain
  

Total Seats: 71


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