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Bill: OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums
Details
Submitted by[?]: Clara Aurora - COSIRA
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4505
Description[?]:
| I have thought it would be cool to create in our nation something similar to the Swiss constitutional and legislative referendums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_in_Switzerland#Legislative_referendums) as a way to create a more "democratic Selucia", which is what we pretend to create recreating the Roman and Greek cultures. Of course, most of them won't be RPed (or RPed as simply refused) but some of them may be interesting. What do you think? |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:47:41, November 27, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | Sounds like a cool idea, but how do we implement this without conflicting game mechanics? I was also thinking it would be cool to allow the Rector to initiate referenda on constitutional matters, treaty ratifications, or territorial reorganization. It would be useful to have a pre-determined procedure for how a referendum should be conducted, like what happens if not all parties provide their percentages. |
| Date | 20:25:09, November 27, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | I was thinking that it might be done with proposals that are not present in the current laws, so there would be no conflict. So for example, a referendum regarding the requirement of all public places to provide better access for people with disabilities. Maybe some other referenda that require game law changes (like same-sex marriage) can be RPed to, but it would require a previous agreement and consent among all parties. I also like that idea, and we can work on how to celebrate these referenda |
| Date | 10:24:28, November 28, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | Sounds good, we could mention in the RP law that "popular initiatives" (or however we call them) cannot contradict existing legislation, to make sure game mechanics stay in place. I was thinking the Senate and the Rector should also have the power to initiate referenda, on any topic. And to make sure the referenda don't contradict game mechanics, we can say that the referendum is not valid until it is formally implemented into law by the Senate. If you want I can start working on an RP law covering these. |
| Date | 12:23:15, November 28, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | So we could divide them in "Rectoral referenda", "Senatorial referenda" and "Popular referenda", the last one being populare proposals that gathers at least, for example, 1 million sigatures? I also like your proposals so yeah if you can you can start working on a draft and we can add changes to it, thanks! |
| Date | 11:14:39, November 30, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | Alright I made the bill. How does it look? I thought it would make sense for the player that organizes the referendum to be able to determine the missing percentages. Last time we had a referendum we ended up with 6 million "missing" voters. |
| Date | 12:07:50, November 30, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | Sounds great, especially bc we always come up with a party that ends up not taking part. I'd also increase the amount of votes needed for a popular referendum since we have more than 99 million citizens, 500,000 signatures seems a bit low for me |
| Date | 13:24:00, November 30, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | Ok, I got it up to 50% of all registered voters. |
| Date | 15:26:09, November 30, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | *5% of all registered voters I mean |
| Date | 16:33:32, December 24, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the OOC: Constitutional and legislative referendums |
| Message | OOC: Archiving |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 750 |
| Random fact: Unless otherwise stated, monarchs and their royal houses will be presumed to be owned by the player who introduced the bill appointing them to their position. |
| Random quote: "The whole uncivilized bunch on the opposite benches can get stuffed." - Craig Warwick, former Dranian politician |