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Bill: Further Expansion of Freedom Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Unified Communist Labor Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2035

Description[?]:

This bill expands freedoms not already expanded by the previous expansion of freedom act.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWe STRONGLY oppose gambling and prostitution. Gambling is the greatest expression of capitalist mentality, allowing people to gain wealth without working or lose wealth through no fault of their own. As for prostitution, it is often little more than sex slavery.

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageI have a feeling we're not on the same page with respect to civil liberties...

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageIf you like to play games of chance, you don't have to gamble money. If you like sex, you don't have to turn it into a for-profit business.

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageHow, pray tell, is prostitution a "civil liberty"?

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageProstitution is not called "the oldest profession" for no reason. Thus, you have two options: keep it illegal, and have a dangerous, horrible, disease-ridden prostitution industry in your nation--or legalize and regulate it, providing the prostitutes with free contraceptives, disease-testing, medical care and other services and letting them organize.

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From
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWe will not support this bill unless the obligatory trade unions bill goes through (which it can hardly fail to do at this stage).

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageI've taken off gambling, btw.

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From
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWe agree with this Bill and fully intend to support it.

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWho, other than people desperate for money to survive, would want to become a prostitute?

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageAnd the oldest profession is hunting, by the way.

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageASGP--we fully support and have voted for the trade union bill. Why link its success to this completely unrelated bill?

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageCP--that question is moot--if someone wants to become a prostitute, they should have that right and be protected.

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From
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWe will also oppose this on the basis that prostitution means exploitation of women. Provide a decent income for all and no one would want to work as a prostitute.

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From
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWe could only really support article one of this. We would be against pornography, which is profit driven erotica. We support the idea that free erotic art is an expression of human activity and therefore valid.

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageRSP--what is wrong with porn for porn's sake?

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageAnyway, I think we've got the votes for this one--NLP, ASGP, Parecon and MLP=55 votes.

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From
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageIF, and it does happen, someone wants to work in the porn industry, what's wrong with that? If they're unionised and the industry is properly regulated, we have no problem with it.

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageRight on, NLP.

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessagePlease explain how exactly you plan to have a profit-driven porn or prostitution industry in a socialist country.

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ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWell in case you haven't noticed, we aren't exactly a socialist country!

Even if you're against prostitution, I can't see how you think leaving it unregulated (via being outlawed) will help anyone involved in it viz sexual health, exploitation and violence and possibly drug addiction and any other number of problems arising from illegal prostitution.

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageFirst off--who says we're socialist right now? Secondly, how do you transform any "profit-driven" industry to a "cooperative" industry when transitioning between capitalism and socialism? Treat prostitution like any other industry--the prostitutes form cooperatives or unions or mutual aid associations, and work together to ensure that all are free and equal and protected.

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From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageI was thinking more along the lines of making prostitution obsolete by removing the underlying social conditions on which it is based - poverty being the greatest one.

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From
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageWe agree with the CP on this. We are not against erotic art, but we are against the profit driven exploitation of human sexuality.

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From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Further Expansion of Freedom Act
MessageThat's fine. We have a contingent of sex workers in our party who have organized an unofficial union and are pushing hard for passage of this bill.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 13

no
 

Total Seats: 7

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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