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Bill: Protection of Staple Industries
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2209
Description[?]:
| Whereas: The Free Republic of Jelbania provides no subsidisation nor protection for essential national industries and services. Whereas: This may result in the collapse of high-employment industries, industries essential to the FR of Jelbania's survival as a nation collapsing or coming under the control of foreign interests. Henceforth, if this Bill is enacted into Law: Industries, (in reference to: Pimary industries such as mining, steel production, chemical production. Tertiary industries such as aeroplane manufacture and airport operation, public transport etc.) should be subsidised by the government if in danger of collapse or foreign takeover. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:19:30, March 31, 2006 CET | From |  Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | Industry DOES NOT MEAN Corporations or Conglomerations. Industry DOES NOT MEAN consumer goods manufacturers. The government MUST be ready to assist industries essential to the survival of the Free Republic as a nation. This does not mean a private company that produces washing machines. This means airports, roads, construction of schools, mining of essential materials (such as coal, oil, uranium). This means shipbuilding, steel manufacture, chemical manufacturing for government and national purposes. These industries need to be protected for the national good, national security, and the good of those citizens in their employ. |
| Date | 23:51:38, March 31, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | Seeing as how I just put the current law in effect, I am against this. If THE PEOPLE do not like service given by some industry, they will not buy. This goes back to the people not being stupid. I do not believe letting the government take over an industry is a good idea, anyway. That creates a monopoly and obsructs free market. That will not do in the FREE Republic of Jelbania. DLP, you are so against the free market to create business and grow. WHY????????? Business owners are not evil! I believe the stoppage of freedom is the real evil. |
| Date | 01:12:27, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | THE PEOPLE are not in question here. The SECURITY of the COUNTRY is. INDUSTRY is not BUSINESS. COAL is essential. STEEL is essential. THE CONSUMER PUBLIC DO NOT BUY STEEL. This bill is in reference to EXPORTS and ESSENTIAL INDUSTRIES. This bill DOES NOT SUGGEST nationalising competitive business, businesses that produce consumer goods, or even industries that are succesfull. It provides for emergencies by allowing the government to step in. And the Free Republic of Jelbania might just possibly refer to the freedom of the Republic's citizens, not the freedom of her markets. OOC: Sorry about all the caps. :-) |
| Date | 03:38:06, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | No, the consumer public buys products which then require purchase of essentials. But, if people do not buy them, then they are obviously not essential, are they? You also forget that people pay taxes to the government; that is where the money comes from. If people do not want a service, it is unfair to force them to pay for it. And what is this "OOC?" |
| Date | 13:46:39, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | *bellows with laughter* My honourable friend, you would suggest, steel, coal and iron are not essential products? You would suggest oil is not an essential product? What would you have us fuel our powerstations, build our buildings and our ships with, fuel our vehicles, including emergency vehicles, with? If one of our staple industries collapses, the whole country could collapse. Anyone who suggests otherwise is a complete fool. Anyone knows the public don't buy from staple industries, other nations do! Our Conservative colleagues talk codswallop. Keir MacDonald Democratic Labour Parliamentary Leader OOC: OOC = Out Of Character. You are not speaking as your party when you are OOC, you are speaking as your IRL self. This you should learn. What is done here is called Roleplaying. Refer to the wiki. IC = In Character. You act as your party. |
| Date | 01:18:17, April 02, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | No, you misunderstand me. They are essential, but the government still does not provide them. My point is that if they really are essential, they will never die. |
| Date | 01:59:50, April 03, 2006 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Protection of Staple Industries |
| Message | The current law just came into effect. The Citizens Party is against this form of corporate welfare. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 150 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 196 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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