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Bill: RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)

Details

Submitted by[?]: Holy Luthori Church ⚔️

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 4625

Description[?]:

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OOC: For references to articles cited please refer to The Constitution of the Holy Luthorian Empire (http://classic.particracy.net/viewconstitution.php?nationid=11)
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The following is an Executive order signed by both the HoS and HoG (OOC: with indepth legal explanations):

"Article 11: The States

The national territory and the international territorial boundary of the Holy Luthorian Empire is inviolable." [i.e. The terrority of Luhtori is sovern and cnnot be transgressed upon]

The PGP (http://classic.particracy.net/viewparty.php?partyid=38003) states that it "supports independence from Luthori", which is the clear intent to violate the territory of Luthori, which is as per Article 11 "inviolable"

"Article 9: Political Parties

A political party .... may be dissolved in cases of .... violations of national law" [i.e. Parties that disregard national laws are subject to being dissolved]

"Article 1: The Republic of Luthori (Luthori)

This Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land." [i.e. the Constitution is the highest standard of law in the Empire]

As the PGP clearly defies Article 11, which is part of the " the Supreme Law of the Land" and therefore the highest standard of national law, Article 9 applies and the PGP is thus subject to being dissolved as per Article 9. The following Articles give the Imperator and the Cabinet the power to do so:

"Article 4: The Executive

The executive power shall be vested in the Imperator and the Cabinet." [i.e. self-explanatory]

"Article 5: The Imperator

The Imperator shall ... see to it that this Constitution is observed." [i.e. the HoS has a duty to enforce the Articles of the Constitution]

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As such the Imperator, with approval of the Cabinet have issued the following decree:

"With the duties intrusted in the Imperator (Article 5) and the shared Executive powers with his Cabinet (Article 4), the PGP has been dissolved as a political party due to the violation of Article 11 of the Constitution as per Article 9:

Thanks to the Parliamentary Immunity, MP's belonging to the PGP party shall hold their offices and not be arrested or charged.

MP's belonging to the former PGP are now considered Independents"

Signed,

Brandon I, Imperator and PM of the Holy Luthori Empire, and Pope of the Holy Luthori Church


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OOC:

this is a revised description:

- explanations of constitutional articles

- explanation of illegal actions

- explanation fo each action as justified by Article fo Constitution

OOC: OOC: OOC: OOC: Can we please start the convention already! We would like to build a new empire!

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date11:31:59, August 22, 2019 CET
FromSocialist Party
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageMr. Speaker,
Your party needs a majority. Quote :"RP laws follow the same passing rules as in-game variable laws. Laws that are not of a constitutional nature require a simple majority "Yes" vote from active parties currently holding seats. Laws that are of a constitutional nature require a 2/3 majority "Yes" vote from active parties currently holding seats;"
and "5d. RP laws that grant extraordinary powers, ban specific parties or ideologies, create one-party states, grant or allow powers that might not be granted by normal game mechanics or otherwise authorize dictatorial or executive authority must be posted HERE for review by Moderation and the Global Roleplay Committee. Please note that RP law approvals may take sometime and Moderation and the GRC will respond as promptly as possible;"

http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8088

Date15:46:26, August 22, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageThis isn't a LAW, it is a DECLARATION

Date02:04:22, August 24, 2019 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageA declaration you have no power to make

Date03:02:05, August 24, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageOmfg......

Can't u read the Constitution?

Date15:49:05, August 24, 2019 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageYou understand it is incomplet and not used in RP

Date17:20:36, August 24, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageIdk, supreme law of the land ... seems incompentent to me.......



Date17:21:01, August 24, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
Messagearchive

Date18:34:34, August 24, 2019 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageIt’s incomplete, it’s not a feature, hence why nations can RP law a constitution following the process outline by the CPL above.

Date23:06:27, August 24, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
Messagethye can RP additonal clauses to the constituiton

and "game mechanics come first", so using the constitution is the right thing to do

Date04:23:25, August 25, 2019 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageIt is not a game mechanic, either get on board or get out.

Date05:39:46, August 25, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
Messagepretty dam sure the CONSTITUTION is a game mechanic......

anyways this bill is over...... and PGP went inactive anyways

Date11:34:47, August 25, 2019 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageThe things not even finished... that’s why RP laws were invented and regulated by Mods

Date17:37:37, August 25, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
Messageeconomics isnt fiished, but we still have a budget and surpuls ect...

Date17:39:21, August 25, 2019 CET
FromWhite Rose
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageBecause the budget is finished, actual economy with GDP and trade isn’t. Please take time to learn the game

Date21:14:55, August 25, 2019 CET
FromHoly Luthori Church ⚔️
ToDebating the RP: Executive Action No.1 (OOC: With In-depth Explanation!!!)
MessageArchive

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Voting

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yes
 

Total Seats: 119

no
    

Total Seats: 385

abstain
  

Total Seats: 97


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