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Bill: A Referendum in Marlingatos

Details

Submitted by[?]: National Libertarian Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2072

Description[?]:

Here are my terms.

1) Gaduridos has full control over the referendum, but allows international representatives to observe the voting proccess.

2) The government of Kalistan pay for all damage that they have done to the people of Gaduridos.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date06:09:19, June 13, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
Messageopen for disscusion, I will change to fit your wants.

Date07:11:29, June 13, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageYou can get rid of item 4 that requests that the President of Kalistan apologize for insulting the Philosopher. We are adults here, since I will not be apologizing to him for anything regarding "insults", I do not feel an apology is necessary from him.

Date07:12:30, June 13, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageItem 3) will be limited to FLF bosses, as the foot soldiers are eligible for amnesty since the amnesty law passed.

Date01:51:41, June 16, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageCould you amend those conditions please.

Date18:09:01, June 16, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
Messagesry: in in q hotel in frqnce, running out of ti,e on ,y cqrd, ,est up keyboard

Date21:10:59, June 16, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageAhh ok, nevermind then, just amend this when you can.

Date00:39:10, June 17, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
Messagenp, got new card? fixed amend,ents

Date23:02:33, June 22, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
Messagegoing to vote with new terms. This would allow democratic voting on the issue of autonomy for Marlingatos.

Date23:53:44, June 23, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageAs soon as this passes there will be a referendum in Marlingatos over the issue of Independence

Date23:12:02, June 24, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageGiven that it was easily revealed that the war was never about Marlingatos, but rather about the BTP's effort to de-stabilize Gaduridos, as the party that has held the plurality in Marligantos for two consecutive terms we feel there is no significant ground swell of support for a referendum, a position we have maintained for over ten years now.

Date23:19:19, June 24, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Progressive Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessagePlease read the BTP's statement of exile, http://aiglesrv.no-ip.info:8080/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=5124, for a good example of exactly how the whole issue of Marligantos was a red herring to move the plans for war forward. Notice there is no mention of Marligantos and in the last paragraph a vow to "return in warships, cruisers, and aircraft carriers of the Kalistani Navy" to "retake our fatherland from the hands of the traitors." Obviously clearly stating an intended seige of all of Gaduridos for purported crimes by parties that support democracy, without any kind of regard for Marligantos.

Date01:25:55, June 25, 2005 CET
FromBenevolent Totalitarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageSo, even now, after the war and the martyrdom of the FLF, you still refuse to let the people of Marligantos speak for themselves? How typical...

Our position in this matter should now be completely irrelevant.

Date01:27:57, June 25, 2005 CET
FromBenevolent Totalitarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
Message*Our position in this matter should now be completely irrelevant to your decision for or against a referendum. Especially since we vowed to punish you for your crimes regardless of anything you might do now or in the near future.

Date01:50:38, June 25, 2005 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the A Referendum in Marlingatos
MessageWe propose this just to end all this conterversity. This isthe end to this dilimma. IF this does not pass, It will haunt us in the future.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 84

no
    

Total Seats: 229

abstain
   

Total Seats: 42


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