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Bill: PLFs Major Reforms of 4752
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti Libéral Fédéraliste (PLF)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4753
Description[?]:
| Twelve proposals over six different government ministries in one bill. The proposals in this bill represents the views of the PLF. These proposals are important for the PLF and are a part of reforms the party want to push through the House during this term (4752-4757). Debate on those proposals will not be started by the PLF, but debate is encouraged if other parties disagree. Members of the PLF will answer if another party starts a debate. The bill will proceed to a vote if no debate is opened. Article 1 - Culture Article 2 - Health Article 3-7 - Justice Article 8-9 - Education Article 10-11 - Foreign policy Article 12 - Welfare |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Art subsidies
Old value:: The government subsidises artistic institutions and all artists.
Current: The government subsidises artistic institutions and some artists on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government subsidises artistic institutions such as art schools and galleries, but does not subsidise individual artists.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Pharmaceutical drugs policy.
Old value:: The government pays for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs.
Current: The government pays for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs.
Proposed: The government pays partially for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs, and pays entirely for those of low income citizens.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the use of forensic DNA databases.
Old value:: All citizens' DNA is recorded.
Current: DNA from persons accused or convicted for a crime is recorded.
Proposed: DNA from persons accused or convicted for a crime is recorded.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 17
Current: 18
Proposed: 18
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Current: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Proposed: The government subsidizes higher education tuition to a certain amount, the rest is covered by the individual students. This includes scholarship programs.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:47:48, May 07, 2020 CET | From |  Parti Populaire Unifié | To | Debating the PLFs Major Reforms of 4752 |
| Message | Monsieur Speaker, The PPU would like to present its case on some of the above mentioned proposals. While the PLF's stances are in sync with our's on most matters, there are some that we would like to seek some reconsiderations on: Article 11: We can allow this proposal to go through, however as a 'Federal Republic', we would like to underline that matters of governance that local bodies rightfully conduct, including sending their representatives to the WC need to be elected by them directly, as this gives them better responsibility to portray their developments issues on a global forum as well.However, we are open to the PLF's proposal if the debate is not acceptable to them. Article 10: We need strict border controls to remain in place, because though we have a very open integration system for foreigners in our country and all those who are skilled and capable of abiding by Kanjor culture and traditions are welcome 'legally' and happy to be even granted citizenships eventually, we cannot let the borders become a stage for infiltration of unwarranted aliens illegally entering our country due to a lapse in Border Control - minimal controls would undo years of effective foreign policy supremacy over others that try to infiltrate our nation with terrorists, extremists, fascists illegally, and this would be a matter of national security. Article 5: The same reasons as above (wrf to Article 10) applies here as well. Illegal aliens need not be entertained, when we have a very effective border controls programme and welcoming of all capable immigrants 'legally'. Even then, these aliens are not deported or expelled usually, but undergo re-integration through integration centres as part of our humane foreign policy. Article 9: Kanjor has a long-standing tradition and respect of granting free compulsory education to all. And further, with regards to higher education, we would prefer if that remains so as well, but provisions of loans upon students that are trying to create a better life through education and eventually contribute to Kanjor and the world, cannot be allowed, we think. We consider it a demotivating and demoralising behaviour towards our youth, the youth that will decide the future of our nation. We understand the financial implications too, and the budget has always been prepared with this in mind, without any implications to other ministries or the overall GDP, however, given the context here, we can permit ourselves to see one of these two other proposals being considered: 'The Govt. subsidizes higher education tuition fees to a certain amount, the rest is covered by individual students...', or, 'The Govt. subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor'. Article 3: We do not like to see people being sentenced to death either, however, having said that, there are crimes that deserve the strictest of punishments, and most importantly, to instill a sense of respect and fear of law in the people. The death penalty alone would be the choice then. This is very imperative, in order to keep our laws intact and the freedom of the people of the land intact, and to instill respect towards abiding by laws. Any lessening on sentences to such crimes, would invariably lessen the law-abiding impact that people might have, creating a dangerous society eventually. Article 6, 7: Jurors, or the judicial machinery, and independent of the legislative/executive and social classes, in order to keep it neutral, fair and just. Any involvement of the public directly invalidates that aspect, keeps it prone to personal agendas, misinformation, propaganda, etc. and is also disrespectful towards the jurors that actually undergo years of education and training to be able to make judicial decisions effectively. Involvement of the public as jurors would not be as effective considering the difference in knowledge and skills. |
| Date | 18:33:48, May 07, 2020 CET | From | Parti Libéral Fédéraliste (PLF) | To | Debating the PLFs Major Reforms of 4752 |
| Message | Monsieur Speaker, The PLF are willing to compromise in some of the proposed articles and seeks to answer the concerns of the members of the PPU. Article 3: We in the PLF can not see the death penalty as a punishment for any crime. It is neither humane nor morally right. Sentences always have a chance of being given to the wrong person. If this is noticed and appealed to a person sentenced to life in jail, they can get out. If they are killed, they can't. Every human has a right to life. Just because a murderer takes away another person's right to life, that does not make it right for the government to take away that person's right. To take a life when a life has been lost is not justice, it is revenge. We are unfortunately not willing to reconsider our proposal on this matter. Article 5 & 10: We respect the work the PPU has done before us and are willing to cross these proposals as a compromise, without fully agreeing to them. Article 6 & 7: We have a different opinion on this matter but listens to the arguments that have been put forward and are willing to cross these proposals. Article 9: We understand the PPU:s stance on this issue and you bring forward compelling arguments. We are therefore willing to change the proposal to The Govt. subsidizes higher education tuition fees to a certain amount, the rest is covered by individual students.' with your permission. Article 11: The World Congress' General Assembly is for all people. We understand the arguments brought forward and are willing to cross this proposal. We do however think that in an eventual win for Seat C in the Security Council, both parties of the government need to have a discussion and support a candidate for the SC we both believe in and trust. |
| Date | 19:43:43, May 07, 2020 CET | From | Brothers of Kanjor | To | Debating the PLFs Major Reforms of 4752 |
| Message | Monsieur Speaker The Brothers of Kanjor completely disagree with all current proposals. The BoK fully support the death penalty and strong border security is a must to keep our nation safe. Illegal aliens should be hunted down and banished from Kanjor upon finding! We will vote NO! |
| Date | 21:44:30, May 07, 2020 CET | From | Parti Populaire Unifié | To | Debating the PLFs Major Reforms of 4752 |
| Message | Monsieur Speaker We thank the PLF for their gracious willingness to accept some of our counter-proposals and arguments. Regarding Article 3, we will leave it to the PLF's best judgement on this issue and will vote in favour regardless of their opinion differing from our's or not. We thank them for accepting arguments in favour of Articles 5, 10, 6, 7, 9. Article 11: We agree with the PLF's view whole-heartedly, and would be willing to thoroughly accept their intended proposal as proposed before, if they wish to re-instate it in the bill. |
| Date | 22:18:16, May 07, 2020 CET | From | Parti Libéral Fédéraliste (PLF) | To | Debating the PLFs Major Reforms of 4752 |
| Message | Monsieur Speaker, We thank the PPU for their understanding, but Article 11 is an issue we can put forward later as this is just the beginning of our term together. We will have many opportunities to put forward legislation later on and propose the bill to be put forward to a vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 525 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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