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Bill: Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Party of Likatonia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4762
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Liberal Democrats
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Conservative Republican Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Liberal Democrats
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Conservative Republican Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Likatonia
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Libertarian Nationalist Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Conservative Republican Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:11:42, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | We agree |
| Date | 01:11:57, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | You probably already knew that though |
| Date | 01:13:16, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Democratic Party of Likatonia | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Will wait for other to see if they agree before putting on voting |
| Date | 01:15:56, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Democratic Party of Likatonia When I spoke to you and said let it be fair I meant FAIR. This is not fair at all. We disagree. |
| Date | 01:19:28, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Well considering your party has no bearing on this passing or not, I shouldn't care, but I was treated with respect when I had no seats, so why do you believe it to be unfair? |
| Date | 01:22:03, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Because it’s a slap in the face to Democracy. Also how is this even going to pass. The other parties won’t vote for it. How about we forget about all these coalitions and put on the table a fair offer with all parties having a responsibility. |
| Date | 01:23:44, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Democratic Party of Likatonia | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | It's not possible to have 8 party-governing-coalition. And it's stupid that doens't exist anywhere |
| Date | 01:24:43, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | What do you mean not governing every where. |
| Date | 01:25:28, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Likatonia First | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | I would say the left did beat the right but we had done this once to you before so we will let you govern |
| Date | 01:25:32, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | I agree with DEMS, an 8 party coalition wouldn't get anything done, could you imagine how divided we would be? Also it only needs 51 votes. |
| Date | 01:27:53, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Okay you do have a point there. But it has worked before. Look at Rutania they make their cabinet proposals on how many seats each party gets not what their ideologies are. |
| Date | 01:28:39, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Democratic Party of Likatonia | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Lab you did it twice and SD became treated as demonised party. That's one of the reasons why we shifted to the right and wanted to prove them that it's absolutely wrong |
| Date | 01:31:01, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Likatonia First | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | The Labour party are totally against these grand colitions. They are almost undemocratic and are cheotic. The people should choose a government and opposition. |
| Date | 01:31:38, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Likatonia First | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Also wehave been in government the most times out of any party so we accept oppostion |
| Date | 01:31:43, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | I agree with the LAB their. |
| Date | 01:33:33, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | NIP: They did that because they wanted the fascist not to be in the gov. the SLP asked me for advice on how to deal with them, I told them keep doing that until the fascist loose seats, the only need for grand coalitions is when we are united against one enemy |
| Date | 01:35:35, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Likatonia First | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Yes, I was actually talking about the NIP 8 party gov idea. |
| Date | 01:37:14, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Democratic Party of Likatonia | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | I tried it in particracy and it's really boring. It's better to have this rotating coalitions |
| Date | 01:38:19, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Democratic Party of Likatonia | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | so that every party at some point get in the government with their most close ideological party. When 8 parties are contesting at the elections it's even harder to do it |
| Date | 01:39:29, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | CRP no they where doing it before then. I looked back at Rutanian history on laws and every new cabinet proposal always had a fair number of responsibilities for ALL parties with seats. |
| Date | 01:40:58, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Likatonia First | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | OOC: I agree with Dem. It is really borring having the same gov |
| Date | 01:42:06, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | OOC: I also agree |
| Date | 01:42:13, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | We Also looked at the new head of government in Rutania (the fascist one) the CD they need to be stopped as soon as possible. |
| Date | 01:43:39, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | They are taking the proper steps, don't worry |
| Date | 01:43:50, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Actually thinking about it this is a completely off topic issue but the Common Democracy Party in Rutania is quite alarming how fast they came to power. |
| Date | 01:44:51, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | CRP when ever someone tells me don’t worry is when I worry. |
| Date | 01:44:56, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Also, I am not going to drop troops in Rutania just because the CD came to power, unless the government pleas for help. |
| Date | 01:46:46, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Still it should issue you at least. I saw that they are trying to bring back Nukes. |
| Date | 01:47:43, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | That doesn't issues me, the nuke part, mainly because there country, and ours for that matter, can not produce them anyway |
| Date | 01:49:04, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Okay I will contact you directly if anything else about them shows up. I will keep my eye in Rutania. |
| Date | 01:49:41, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Okay |
| Date | 01:50:33, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Here is a frightening bill I talked about. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=625062 |
| Date | 01:53:08, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Articles 1, 2, 3, and 5 I can understand but using nukes in reatalation to any attack and forcing military service is not right |
| Date | 01:54:53, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Exactly. The SLP have contacted me before about the CD before they where in power. Hopefully the coalition they have will stop them. |
| Date | 01:55:15, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Did they ask for help? |
| Date | 01:55:28, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Should we make a bill on this CD to are Parliament. |
| Date | 01:55:51, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Conservative Republican Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | No, not for now |
| Date | 01:56:21, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | No it was before they got in power. The SLP called it but no one listened to them in their government until there last election. |
| Date | 01:56:31, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Socialists People’s Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | Okay. |
| Date | 03:24:41, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Libertarian Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | I support this cabinet |
| Date | 05:04:34, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | LD will support. |
| Date | 11:23:47, May 26, 2020 CET | From | The Moderates | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | An 8 party coalition is basically no government but with government positions |
| Date | 20:32:39, May 26, 2020 CET | From | Democratic Party of Likatonia | To | Debating the Dem-CRP-LD-LNP Government - Government of United Liberals and Conservatives |
| Message | OOC: January 4762 when bill passed (doing for wiki purposes) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 52 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 29 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 19 |
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