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Bill: Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab

Details

Submitted by[?]: Likatonia First

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 4769

Description[?]:

This is a debate featuring Likatonia's largest 4 parties

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:26:01, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLikatonia First
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageRon Mowia will debate for Lab

Date19:30:39, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageI can moderate

Date19:34:45, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageYou can moderate, the rules are the same as for the small party debate.

Date19:38:01, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOkay

Date19:38:23, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageIRP Isn't on as much, should we go ahead and start?

Date19:38:25, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageJuan Rios is debating in front of Democrats. He's member of Presidency of Democratic Party of Likatonia.

Date19:39:49, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageSo is that a yes or no for starting now?

Date19:40:16, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
Messageyou can ask first question others will catch. We won't go to the next question until all the other parties have replied

Date19:42:38, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: Okay

Sarah Conner from LNN: What is your position on the economy? What will your parties do to expand it?

Date20:02:20, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageUnder Marc Weiß premiership, GDP our Likatonia hit its maximum that was broken only recently. If Democrats have control over the Ministry of Finance in the next term we will redesign taxation, it will vary between 5 and 50% so the progressive taxation will stay in place just a little bit redesigned from current system. On the hand we think we should raise spendings of the military, although not much and social servicies, education. We think that current taxation and spednings are quite good. However, there is room for improvement. We think that under LD financies of Likatonia were at its best days. But as I said, while Democrats were controlling financies there were quite until we went in opposition most recently during Oakley premiership around 10 years ago. We want to raise military spendings not because we want to attack other nations or because we are fighting for democracy around Terra, what CRP has been doing but because we want to be prepared when some militarist nation attacks us. Wisely, spending more in education and social servies means that we are fighting for our childen and poor families because children are our future.

Date20:05:13, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLibertarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageEdward Baldwin: My position on the economy is always the same, we need to get money back in the pockets of the people, and to do that I suggest we cut everything by 50%, income tax by 50%, sales tax by 50%, corporate tax by 50%, and so on. And I know there are people that will ask about how we are going to make up the money lost from this, and that is an easy solution: we will cut government spending across the board.

Date20:15:13, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLikatonia First
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageRon Mowia: We totally oppose the LNPs spending strategy. No wonder these parties couldn't agree on a substantial budget. We belive that the current income taxation policy is fair but would like to see higher corperate tax and lower tax for essential goods. We would also like to see increased spending on healthcare, education and other departments which effect the poorest in our nation. This will come from reduced spending on defense and in other departments which don't run much such as HoG and Finance.

Date20:20:16, June 09, 2020 CET
FromSocialists People’s Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
Message*Some body in the crowed heckles the LNP*

Date20:21:33, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLibertarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
Message*some people clap for the LNP*

Date20:25:43, June 09, 2020 CET
FromSocialists People’s Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
Message*some people clap most boo the LNP*

Date20:31:21, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLibertarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
Messageooc: who made you in charge of the audience? Can we just not have an audience, it doesn't seem quite fair

Date20:37:03, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: NIP you're not allowed to post here, LNP is right

Date20:43:13, June 09, 2020 CET
FromSocialists People’s Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: jeez okay I’ll go

Date20:43:34, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLikatonia First
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: We agree with the LNP. We imagine for people cheer for us, some clap for us, some boo for us and some laugh at us

Date21:04:05, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLikatonia First
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: You can ask the next question now as I doubt the IRP will respond soon

Date21:08:25, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: I agree we can move on. IRP probably won't respond

Date21:10:52, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageSarah Conner LNN: Could you lay out your parties plans on the military, especially concerning Zardugal?

Date21:34:27, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageDemocrats had hard time to calm down all the situation and mess that CRP left us reagrding international community and Likatonian reputation. We are opposed to high militarisation. However, we think that we should have enough military to defend ourselves. We should find peaceful solutions for every situation. About Zadrugal, we agree with CRP that there is no democracy but we think that it's not our job to defend and fight for democracies of other countries. We are interested in improving and retaining current democracy Likatonia proudly has.






Date21:42:13, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLibertarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageEdward Baldwin: I find it very sad that Zardugal will not accept our ceasefire, and attempts at peace, but may i remind you all of this mess would have been avoided if the CRP was not using taxpayer money to fund foreign terrorists, as for the military, we believe in military privatization, deregulation, and state regulated militias. we also agree with the Dems that we need to drastically cut back military spending.

Date21:44:34, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: Could we avoide attacking parties who can not respond? I tried my best in the NIP-CRP debate, but they brought it up.

Date21:44:59, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLibertarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: attacking parties is politics my friend

Date21:46:43, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: I know.

Date22:02:33, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: I understand that CRP is feeling offended but you provoked us by asking us this question.

Date22:04:35, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLikatonia First
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageRon Mowia:We agree with Dem on this

Date22:17:37, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: I am not offended lol.

Date22:39:48, June 09, 2020 CET
FromConservative Republican Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageJohn Dogan LNN: If elected what is the number one policy your party will push to implement?

Date23:09:55, June 09, 2020 CET
FromLikatonia First
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageRon Mowia: The policy we would most like to introduce the most is for the creation of a nationalised energy company to sell energy for the public. We believe the government should have the right to sell their own energy services if they like and be able to compete with the large private companies as we do now. We would at least like to see more regulations on prices so that people are changed fairly.

Date23:49:16, June 09, 2020 CET
FromDemocratic Party of Likatonia
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageDemocratic Party will demand fixed number of terms President can serve. We think that maximum 2 terms can be served by one President. By applying this rule we'll reduce change of having George A. Morgan who was 4 times elected in the office of President. However we can conmromise on number of terms the single President can serve. On the other hand, we don't think that we should limit number of terms for Prime Minister office although it's more powerful than position of President. The reason for this is that Prime Minister is not elected directly so citizens are not giving their votes to the one person but to the list instead.





Date01:04:05, June 10, 2020 CET
FromLibertarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageEdward Baldwin: Our first priority would be to pass the bill incorporating my 50% tax cuts, then we would work on privatizing the military

Date01:27:01, June 10, 2020 CET
FromInstitutional Revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Big party debate: LNPvDemvIRPvLab
MessageOOC: Sorry I haven't been on as much lately, been swamped. It should be getting better here soon.

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