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Bill: WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Worker's League of Hutori

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4834

Description[?]:

The Act respecting the Establishment of Regulations on the Use of Unethical Weapons and Munitions by the Hutorian Armed Forces and the Government of Hutori.

This Act may be cited as the Unethical Weapons Act.

Article 1) Biological and Chemical Weapons
1.1 The Hutorian Armed Forces may only order an attack on enemy forces with biological or chemical weapons or munitions if the beforementioned enemy forces or any of its allies involved in a conflict against Hutori have ordered an attack with biological or chemical weapons or munitions on any element of the Hutorian Armed Forces, any civilian population located in territory under Hutorian control or any civilian population or elements of the armed forces of the nations with whom we have a mutual defense treaty.

Article 2) Landmines
2.1 The Hutorian Armed Forces may not deploy or use landmines for the purposes of movement interdiction.

Article 3) Nuclear Weapons
3.1 The Government of Hutori may not order an attack with nuclear weapons unless the target of the attack or allies of the target who are in conflict with Hutori have used nuclear weapons against any element of the Hutorian Armed Forces, any territory under Hutorian control, or any element of armed forces or territory belonging to nations with whom we have a mutual defense treaty.
3.2 If the conditions outlined in Article 3.1 are met, however, Hutori pledges to use all weapons available to it against its enemies, including biological, chemical, radiological, and nuclear weapons.

Article 4) Armed drones
4.1 The Hutorian Armed Forces may not deploy or use armed drones for any military purposes.
4.1.1 The Hutorian Armed Forces may still use unarmed drones for reconnaissance, explosive ordnance disposal, and other non-combatant purposes.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:57:52, October 20, 2020 CET
From Worker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Worker's League of Hutori has put forwards this bill for one simple reason. We already see war as an unnecessary evil that plagues our world but we see these weapons outlined in the bill as weapons that only exacerbate the death, misery, and suffering that war brings. Chemical and biological weapons cause unnecessary suffering in its victims who, due to the volatile and unpredictable nature of these weapons, often include civilians. Landmines scar the landscapes of former battlefields, making acres of land unsuitable for human life and causing collateral casualties among the population decades after the last bullet is fired. Nuclear weapons are the most destructive weapons known to man and, if they were to be used, could cause the end of civilization as we know it. Armed drones, especially UAVs, have been used to carry out extralegal killings and have contributed to many civilian deaths in the process. To prevent an escalation of force that could cause thousands if not millions of civilian casualties, we must keep these weapons only as a deterrent and make it clear to the world that we will not strike first but, if push comes to shove, we will strike with all we have. We must also not use weapons that have the possibility of causing massive civilian casualties and that provide no deterrent against aggression such as landmines and armed drones. The government must adopt this bill if it cares about the people of our land and of the world and cares about their lives.

Date03:15:57, October 20, 2020 CET
From Hutori Party
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr Speaker,

While we do agree with a rollback of chemical weapons, frankly we would support a complete ban on them, we cannot support the rest of this legislation. This bill would severely limit the capabilities of our armed forces.

Rt. Hon. Phillipe Trudeau
Senator for Saint Anslem Jonquiere
Prime Minister of Hutori

Date03:16:44, October 20, 2020 CET
From Hutori Party
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageOOC: also the bill refers to the commonwealth which no longer exist, would reccomend changing the wording to federal republic.

Date03:57:35, October 20, 2020 CET
From Worker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We would argue that the bans on armed drones and landmines do not significantly limit our military's capabilities and the limited effect on the military capabilities that this bill has would be outweighed significantly by the decrease of civilian casualties that are caused by these weapons. Firstly, landmines kill and maim thousands every year and, once planted, can cripple an entire region for decades after the end of the war. Farmers can no longer plow their fields without fearing about detonating a landmine. Parents can no longer send their kids outside without risking them finding a landmine and losing their legs. It cost only 30 to 100$ to plant a landmine but it cost 300 to 1000$ to remove one and it could potentially cost somebody a whole lot more than that. Is it really worth it to keep using them if they cost the people so much afterward? Secondly, armed drones, though effective at killing enemy leaders, also serve as a wonderful opportunity for propaganda and recruitment. For every man, woman, or child killed by a UAV by accident, you get 100 recruits ready to fight. War nowadays is based on winning hearts and minds and armed drones do the opposite. They antagonize the populace and anger them into fighting against us. These weapons are inhumane and unethical and the world and our people would be better without.

Date03:58:54, October 20, 2020 CET
From Worker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageOOC: Sorry about that, I am new to this game and I was getting my info from the Wiki which seems to be outdated.

Date05:30:09, October 20, 2020 CET
From Republican Party of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr Speaker,

This is an incredibly dangerous bill that seeks to significantly weaken our military. It honestly astounds me how the Workers League of Hutori seem to hate this country so much and would wish to see us conquered by others.

Hon. Max Murphy
Senator for Ulfred North


Date06:09:17, October 20, 2020 CET
From Worker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We absolutely abhor the accusations coming from the Republican Party that this bill is out of a hatred of Hutori. We have proposed this bill because we believe that our people will benefit from restrictions on the use of these weapons. Chemical, biological and nuclear weapons are the most devastating weapons known to man with the ability to kill millions of innocents in a matter of hours or even minutes and we believe our people and the world would be better off if we pledge to not engage in the widespread use of these weapons and to only keep them as deterrents. Landmines, though cost-effective in the short term, cost the nation and its people much more in the long run in money, property, and lives. When landmines are used, everybody loses. The enemy loses the battle but our children lose when they get limbs blow off while playing in a field. The farmer loses when he runs over a mine while plowing his fields. The EOD technician loses when a landmine blows up in his face while he is defusing it. Armed drones cause unnecessary civilian deaths which only damages our reputation abroad and make us more enemies among the foreign populace, enemies that will be willing to do anything to destroy our country. We have people's lives in our hands and we must take that responsibility seriously by getting rid of dangerous and costly weapons that kill civilians and hurt our standing abroad and restricting our use of WMDs to ensure that, after a war, we will have a country to go back to.

Date06:14:19, October 20, 2020 CET
From Worker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We would also like to point out that it is outlined in our bill that we reserve the right to use biological, chemical, and nuclear weaponry against our enemies if they have attacked us with such weapons beforehand so no, we are not hampering our abilities, we are limiting the damages that a potential war could cause and preventing an escalation of force that could lead to millions dead.

Date20:40:33, October 20, 2020 CET
From National Progress Party
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Needlees to say, we agree witth everything the WLH said about these weapon. I don't think anyone doubt that nuclear and chemical weapons, land mines and millitary drones are terrible weapon that can be use to perform unspeakble act. However, we need not to be naive about the reality of our world.

We live in a cruel world of war and violence. We have to accept the fact that world is filled with governement who do not have the same moral standards than Hutori. The day war errupt, we need to be capable of doing everything possible to bring back peace. Sometime, peace require sacrifice, horrible sacrifice.

In conclusion, I would add that there is no shame in deterrence, owning a weapon is very different froma ctually owning it. The National Progress Party will vote against this bill.

-Trystan Dexter
Minister of Denfence
Senator for Gunner North

Date20:41:00, October 20, 2020 CET
From National Progress Party
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageOOC: *owning a weapon is very different from actually using it

Date21:32:51, October 20, 2020 CET
From Worker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the WL-3: Unethical Weapons Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We would like to reiterate that this bill doesn't prevent our nation from keeping nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons as a deterrent. What this bill does is prevent the possibility of massive unnecessary civilian and military casualties that could happen if we were to strike first with our CBRN armaments. We would like to ask a question, however, to the NPP; what good would winning a war be if we do not have a people to come back to? If the nation we fought that war for is now barren and dead, will the victory have been worth it? Using these weapons in war is the equivalent of salting the earth, preventing anybody from living there, whether it be out of fear for unexploded landmines or from the destruction of an entire region with CBRN weapons. We should let the world know that if they were to use these unethical weapons that they will feel the wrath of our combined armaments as we will not let our people die from these weapons without a response. However, we owe it to our people to do everything in our power to prevent an escalation of force that could lead to millions of deaths, even if we need to restrict our use of these weapons to do so.

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Total Seats: 90

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Total Seats: 257

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Total Seats: 58


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