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Bill: Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Worker's League of Hutori

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 4853

Description[?]:

The Act respecting the Establishment of the Retirement Age

This Act may be cited as the Retirement Age Act

Article 1)
1.1 The retirement age will be set to 60.
1.2 People over the retirement age will be eligible for the National Pension Plan.
1.3 All corporation providing private pensions must allow all people over the retirement age to be eligible for the pensions.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:32:52, November 23, 2020 CET
FromWorker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The most recent bill by the Revolutionary Kaminskyist Party has a provision reducing the retirement age which we support but it was accompanied by other proposals that we could not support. That is why we are proposing a reduction in the retirement age as a stand-alone proposal. We put forwards this legislation to allow the workers who allow us to live our current life of plenty deserve to have the time to enjoy the fruits of their labour by changing the minimum age for eligibility for pensions to 60.

Hon. Nathan DeLaurier,
Senate Leader for the Worker's League of Hutori,
Senator for Port Prosperity Centre

Date21:32:40, November 23, 2020 CET
FromNational Change Party
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker

This bill will destroy small businesses is Hutori and with records of people living longer in anytime in history as well as the communist policies set by the workers league, the national change party profoundly disagrees with this bill as it would just add to the many problems with Hutori. Further more this would almost 99.9% hurt the economy in such a way that we’ll never really recover from if this bill proposal is passed. 65 years of age is just the right age to retire. No more no less.

Rt. Hon
Rex Collins
Deputy Leader of the
National Change Party

Date07:57:21, November 24, 2020 CET
FromWorker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We would argue that the increased lifespan due to our technological progress is all the more reason to lower the age of retirement. Today, a worker makes a huge amount of surplus value, making it possible for a worker to produce more goods in less time. People should be able to enjoy their lives after having worked for decades and thanks to the advances in manufacturing and worker productivity, it is entirely within reason to do so. Also, the fact that the National Change Party uses the label of communist against us is indicative of how little they actually understand our platform. We are not communists, we are democratic socialists. We stand for the workers and common folk of this country unlike the National Change Party which serves the interests of big capitalists lining their pockets off of the work of the people.

Hon. Nathan DeLaurier,
Senate Leader for the Workers League,
Senator for Port Prosperity Centre

Date18:12:10, November 24, 2020 CET
FromNational Change Party
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker

Can I just say that I find it amusing that the Workers League is proposing this bill despite the fact we live in one of the most Socialists countries in Terra. When will the truth finally come out that the workers league will tear up your business and leave you poorer than you where before. This government Owns! most of the things in the nation which is making things as well as people poorer which ironically the Workers league say they stand against. And also on the remarks made by the commies that the National Change Party is only wanting to line the pockets of big capitalists simply shows that they don’t know anything about our platform.

Our party believes in a decent minimum wage, an acceptable professional retirement age which this bill knows nothing of, a free for all healthcare system and a sane corporations tax and adding on to that a sane tax level where huge corporations and the extremely wealthy pay their share. That’s our views Mr speaker, to help businesses not destroy them!

Rt. Hon
Rex Collins
Deputy Leader of the
NCP

Date03:28:55, November 25, 2020 CET
FromWorker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I recognize that we are one of the most leftist countries globally. That is thanks to our efforts and our allies in this Senate. But there is still work to be done, progress to be achieved. We should not sit on our laurels. Today, however, the National Change Party has shown its true colours. It is lashing out wildly against anything that might slightly hurt the massive corporations. The NCP's platform does claim all of the things that the Honourable Deputy Leader of the NCP mentioned, but a platform is worth nothing if you don't back it up with action, and all the NCP has brought forwards in this Senate has been privatization, deregulation and pro-corporation legislation. I have to give credit where credit is due, however. The NCP truly wants to help the corporations. They help them keep the workers down, keep them as wage slaves for as long as possible, preventing them from retiring early, preventing them from finally living their life without strife and toil, just so a CEO may line his pockets just a little more. We want to give everybody the dignity and respect they deserve for the work they have done and to allow them to retire earlier. Just the fact that there is so much opposition to this bill from across the Senate floor shows just how much work we still have to do until the workers can finally be free.

Hon. Nathan DeLaurier,
Senate Leader for the Workers League,
Senator for Port Prosperity Centre

Date03:28:57, November 25, 2020 CET
FromWorker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I recognize that we are one of the most leftist countries globally. That is thanks to our efforts and our allies in this Senate. But there is still work to be done, progress to be achieved. We should not sit on our laurels. Today, however, the National Change Party has shown its true colours. It is lashing out wildly against anything that might slightly hurt the massive corporations. The NCP's platform does claim all of the things that the Honourable Deputy Leader of the NCP mentioned, but a platform is worth nothing if you don't back it up with action, and all the NCP has brought forwards in this Senate has been privatization, deregulation and pro-corporation legislation. I have to give credit where credit is due, however. The NCP truly wants to help the corporations. They help them keep the workers down, keep them as wage slaves for as long as possible, preventing them from retiring early, preventing them from finally living their life without strife and toil, just so a CEO may line his pockets just a little more. We want to give everybody the dignity and respect they deserve for the work they have done and to allow them to retire earlier. Just the fact that there is so much opposition to this bill from across the Senate floor shows just how much work we still have to do until the workers can finally be free.

Hon. Nathan DeLaurier,
Senate Leader for the Workers League,
Senator for Port Prosperity Centre

Date03:29:25, November 25, 2020 CET
FromWorker's League of Hutori
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageOOC: Sorry for the double post

Date20:56:50, November 25, 2020 CET
FromNational Change Party
ToDebating the Bill WL-20: Retirement Age Act
MessageMr. Speaker

I find it strange but not surprising that the Workers League doesn’t want to help our economy or corporations or for that matter the normal citizens of Hutori. What the country needs to do in order to really try to move forward is for the government to offer subsidies for businesses and corporations that don’t break the law and want to actually help the people working for them as-well as the customers of thiers. That way as cost for good corporations is lowered the more investment will be made, the more investments made will lead to workers being given higher wages, the higher the wages the more the workers will spend leading to a booming economy.

Also i think it’s a very cheap shot by the senator to say that the NCP is and I quote is “lashing out wildly against anything that might slightly hurt the massive corporations” The national Change Party wants no one to be hurt by the senate but the workers league now admits that this bill will hurt businesses and corporations but they haven’t yet admitted the HUGE! affect that this would have on the economy so I will like to hear how the government is planning on paying for this as some experts say that this bill could cost us up to hundreds of billions possibly even trillions. So how is the government gonna pay for it? Increase taxes?

Rt. Hon
Rex Collins
Deputy Leader of the
NCP

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