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Bill: The Small Farm Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2068
Description[?]:
| I realize most subsidies are horrible horrible things... But, for small business -- especially small farms it boosts the economy. Injecting some money into small farms is vital to national security as well in case trade with other nations becomes cut off, or if the multinational farming corporations go sour we don't need to worry as much about waves within the market. Plus, currently -- none of our farms get any money at all. If we're willing to subsidize some education, this is worth subsidizing as well. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government denies subsidy assistance to farmers.
Current: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Proposed: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:47:19, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | ill support |
| Date | 12:55:52, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | We have always supported this, and will contine to. |
| Date | 12:56:47, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | However, there is currently a rule that you have to provide some figures for how much this is going to take out of the budget. PP will insist. |
| Date | 19:29:02, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | Too bad we couldn't pass a law to stop PP from doing that... |
| Date | 19:29:47, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | Oh and if you look at the new cabinet, PP isn't in charge of the budget any more; LLP is. |
| Date | 20:43:29, June 16, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | That still doesn't remove the stipulation ...removing me doesn't make the numbers dissappear.. |
| Date | 20:46:24, June 16, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | I have a qustion- shouldn't low-income farming communities ...switch over to something else?? Why prolong their stay in the farming sector? Oh and thanks to futures contracts there can't be any real threat of a nation withdrawing food supplies from us and spiking prices. In any case, there are plenty of food suppliers in the world ...if one stops we'll simply switch to another....it makes no sense to sspend money on this sector. |
| Date | 20:51:27, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | I've got majorty support, I will put this to a vote. |
| Date | 23:41:06, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | PP: that is not the point. we dont want people to switch away from farming if they have a low income, because relying on foreign imports may not damage our food stocks but will damage our economy in the long run. Farming ethically in the developed world is never going to be a highly paid job unless farming a speciality produce, and therefore not a popular career choice - so existing farmers should be encouraged to persevere. |
| Date | 07:54:12, June 17, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | I do not support this Global Resource Rape policy which is known as Capitalism. |
| Date | 19:24:02, June 17, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the The Small Farm Bill |
| Message | LLP: Your position on this is irresponsible and foolish. Global food stocks have -increased- in the world, small farmers will never be able to give back to the economy significantly, and this will drain our budget. Subsidizing education is to ensure an equal opportunity. Subsidizing farming is to ensure inefficient farms - why would they need to sell crops, if they can take government handouts? They wouldn't need to save money to pay their own way on things - they can take government money. Even assuming they use the money responsibly, then what? Once that happens, we have overproductive farms. They flood the market, prices drop, and suddenly they can't cover their own costs. The farms go out of business, and the government has to pay more to ensure a steady food supply. This vicious cycle is one we should NOT encourage. If left to their own devices, farmers will regulate production so that the market doesn't fail due to overproducing. Handouts to businesses encourage foolish investments, fail to punish inefficiencies, and discourage innovation. We should not undermine the market by subsidizing anyone. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 133 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 45 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 22 |
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