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Bill: Introducing moderate physical pressure (2nd try)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Peoples Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2220
Description[?]:
When nations are in cases of serious threat, it should be allowed to force people holding VITAL information to speak. This is to avoid putting the national security at risk. the HPP therefore wants to allow torture, but only when the information it extorts is vital for saving lives. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 00:29:41, April 27, 2006 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Introducing moderate physical pressure (2nd try) |
Message | Information gained through torture, no matter how vital it may be deemed, is so likely to be untrue as to make any information useless. A victim under torture will say anything in order to stop said torture and so any information cannot be trusted and could in fact place any operatives/police/soldiers etc at risk should they follow it. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 119 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 139 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 142 |
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