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Bill: PTE II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2070
Description[?]:
| Protect the Environment I dont want my drinking water contaminated. Do you? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of pollution in industry.
Old value:: The government enforces moderate pollution restrictions.
Current: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Proposed: The government enforces moderate pollution restrictions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:13:04, June 16, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the PTE II |
| Message | Serious debate this time |
| Date | 19:41:07, June 16, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the PTE II |
| Message | We believe that the best way to reduce pollution is to work with industry to create targets and guidelines which they are able and willing to meet and that are in fact workable. To impose arbitrary restricitons which may hugely harm productivity is detrimental to the economy of Telamon and also to the environment as many of the particularly larger companies are likely to find ways to flout or circumvent the restrictions or indeed they may just relocate somewhere else, which means a los of Telamonian jobs and they continue to pollute and the same rate anyway, therefore meaning that the global environment is not actually helped. However, by working with rather than against industry it is possible to find ways to reduce pollution which include workable targets and guidelines to reduce pollution as well as investing in new technology which futher reduces pollution. We believe that this is the best way forward and we believe that by doing this you will find that a majority of companies will in fact abide by the guidelines. |
| Date | 20:26:56, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the PTE II |
| Message | Agreed with the UCA, however, there still needs to be some recourse against those who do not meet said targets. Thus, something along the lines of incentives, ass opposed to penalties would be our method. |
| Date | 23:45:07, June 16, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the PTE II |
| Message | Yes, agreed |
| Date | 05:55:30, June 17, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the PTE II |
| Message | Well, there is no proposal for incentives. I just don't believe you can trust all companies to protect the environment on their own. There will be companies that will ignore these guidelines without any type of enforcement in place. Putting moderate restriction enforcements along with the more restrictive "guidelines" (not enforced), I believe, is a better balance between the environment and keeping jobs. |
| Date | 07:11:01, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the PTE II |
| Message | Hrmmm I never put this to vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 127 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 86 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 37 |
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