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Bill: Gated Communities Act 2221

Details

Submitted by[?]: Centre Démocratique

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2222

Description[?]:

To remove housing regulations in the private sector.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:33:38, May 01, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageGated Communities are not necessary. They create resentment, and increase the class divide.

However, the DLP believes this is an issue for Regional governments (if that is possible).

Date20:17:56, May 01, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageWhat is a gated community?

Date01:49:50, May 02, 2006 CET
FromCentre Démocratique
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageUnfortunately it is not possible to leave this issue to the regions. We would support that move toward devolution. However, we feel the government is wielding too much authority on the private sector by not allowing gated communities. Gated communities are usually looked after by private security and anyone entering must be invited by residents of the communities. Obviously, these communities usually exist in more affluent areas. We are aware of the class divide that is a part of this. Unfortunately that is a problem that the larger society has created, not gated communities. We do not believe the government should infringe upon the rights of private individuals and groups to set up communities that they wish to live in. This is ultimately a civil liberties matter.

Date02:19:58, May 02, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageIf the police forces the Free Republic supplies are deemed so inadequate gated communities must be established then there is a serious problem. However, this is not the case.

We cannot allow forbidden palaces in which the rich live under a law of their own. This is not a good idea.

Date04:09:44, May 02, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageThe GMP is unsure of the DLP's stance on this matter, but agress with the original sense that "they create resentment, and increase the class divide". Therfore it opposes the new proposal which offers potential for these "forbidden palaces".

Date04:26:09, May 02, 2006 CET
FromCentre Démocratique
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageWhile, yes, gated communities do often attract wealthy residents, people of all incomes should have the freedom to make up their own minds if they want to live there or not. The government should not do that. What a group of 300 Buddhists wanted to set up a gated community that would be their personal and private area. Shouldn't they be allowed to set up their community.

The security forces I mentioned are not necessarily in all gated communites. The communities decide. But they are by no means a police force. Think more along the lines of mall security guards.

I believes this is a civil liberties issue. The government need not make restrictions on the housing arrangements of private individuals.

Date04:44:20, May 02, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageThe GMP is of the opinion that groups sharing common interests already have ample opportunity to openly live close to each other, and it can not promote the notion that social isolation and division are beneficial.

Date19:49:10, May 02, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageI still do not get it. If rich people want to go and live together, why should we force them not to??? If someone want to live with friends and away from averbody else, it is there choice. I support.

Date20:46:16, May 02, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageIt is regrettable that the Conservative Party seems to have misunderstood the situation; there is ample opportunity for groups sharing common interests to live in the same vicinity without having to give up numerous social benefits and liberties by erecting divisive walls throughout the community.

We urge the DLP to show strength enough to stand by their original conclusion that "Gated Communities (...) create resentment, and increase the class divide" by withdrawing this contradictory proposal.

Date00:46:52, May 03, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageSo what? If people want to shut themselves out from the world, why stop them?

"...there is ample opportunity for groups sharing common interests to live in the same vicinity..." Well, if they wanted to share common interests, they would not build the wall, would they?

Date03:14:32, May 03, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageBecause they are our people.

Gated Communities are traditionally established in poor countries with a rich elite, in order to protect said elite. These are usually third, sometimes second world countries. The provision of police protection in these countries is often inadequate to prevent the majority of poor rioting, or, even worse, walking through rich areas. Therefore they set up gated communities.

This is simply not the case in Jelbania. There is no good argument to allow these generally harmful things, aside from, 'why not?'. That is not how a country should be governed.

Date04:33:34, May 03, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageSo, they are our people and we should make decisions for them? That is not right at all. We are their government; we are theirs, not the other way around.

Date01:46:04, May 04, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageThe Prime Minister, Keir Butler, responds to Conservative criticism:

Uh, yeah. They elected us.

Date03:37:28, May 04, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageNo, actually they elected me. You are Prime minister because that is what WE voted for.

Either way, they elected us to suppress people they do not agree with? That is not fair.

Date04:10:43, May 04, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageThe Conservative Party, whilst certainly not idiots, do tend to speak absolute rubbish on occasions.

Date19:43:57, May 04, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageExcuse me if I believe in freedom.

Date05:38:19, May 05, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities Act 2221
MessageFreedom, means not dividing communities with walls that exclude people, and not commoditizing social spaces.

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Voting

Vote Seats
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Total Seats: 375

no
   

Total Seats: 250

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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