We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Defense Resolution I: Council Approval Requirement
Details
Submitted by[?]: Proletariat Revolution Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2071
Description[?]:
War is a serious matter.
50% of the Council is not enough to justify war.
Offensive declarations of war will require 2/3rds of the National Council to vote in favor. However, in the event that Likatonia is attacked for any reason, a declaration of war is automatic, with no National Council approval needed. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:58:27, June 17, 2005 CET |
From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Defense Resolution I: Council Approval Requirement | | Message | Ok, so maybe in the case of civil war the leader will have a month (if they have indeed voted for it). However, I think it should be the government. But, yes, I do see the need to give time.
This bill requires the regular 50%.
However, it seems that 75% is too high. Maybe it should be 2/3? War is a serious thing, and there should be a consensus. |
| Date | 19:48:49, June 17, 2005 CET |
From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Defense Resolution I: Council Approval Requirement | | Message | We support this, but there should be an amendment to this effect:
"Offensive declarations of war will require 2/3rds of the National Council to vote in favor, however, in the event of an invasion into our lands, the declaration will be automatic and we shall be at war with the invaders." |
| Date | 09:21:51, June 18, 2005 CET |
From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Defense Resolution I: Council Approval Requirement | | Message | I believe this bill to be well-intended, but poorly considered. In order to ensure the full protection of our nation is not blocked by a few members that lack the stomach to fight and properly defend our nation, the requirement for a declaration of war should be at 50%+1 members of the National Council. |
| Date | 00:27:27, June 20, 2005 CET |
From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Defense Resolution I: Council Approval Requirement | | Message | In the spirit of compromise, the LFP supports a move by the People's Party to lower it to 60%.
The most important thing here is that we establish that the Council WILL be consulted by this, and that the president and/or defense minister will never declare a war that is not approved by the Council. To that end, the exact numbers are less important, as long as they are over 58% of the Council. (58% is the maximum amount of seats any party can take in an election.) |
| Date | 03:00:22, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Defense Resolution I: Council Approval Requirement | | Message | Thank you for taking this to vote.
I shouldn't have had to propose it myself to gain your attention.
In any case, you'll notice there's a 6% difference in the number of seats required between these two resolutions. I prefer this one, with the additional 6%. However, I dropped it a bit on mine to hopefully secure the vote of the People's Party, which raised as an objection the 2/3rds majority being too big. |
subscribe to this discussion -
unsubscribeVoting
| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 73 |
| no | Total Seats: 67 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 60 |
| Random fact: Discuss flag designs at the Flag Designs thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37 |
| Random quote: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead |