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Bill: Industry Act 2221
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2224
Description[?]:
Whereas, the government provided no support to industry, essential or otherwise, endangering jobs, the economy and the security of the Free Republic. Therefore, should this bill pass into law, the government shall do what is proper to protect the citizens of Jelbania, the welfare of the nation and her industry and th essential industries of the Free Republic. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: The government subsidizes private enterprises that face bankruptcy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 03:45:32, May 03, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | The DLP is determined to see reform in this area, even if it is watered down. |
Date | 04:09:40, May 03, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | No. |
Date | 04:31:15, May 03, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | Whilst the GMP agrees with the DLP's desire for reform, it does not support the proposal put forward in any sense. |
Date | 13:55:39, May 03, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | Why? It seems the other parties here have ABSOLUTELY NO economic sense whatsoever. Monetarism does not work. The government needs to inject money into the economy to support it. The DLP has seen no good argument for the campaign of privatisation put forward by the Conservative party and the Conservative party continues to present none. The DLP would also have thought the GMP may have supported reform for the good of the nation. |
Date | 03:42:48, May 04, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | I have economic sense; I simply use it with ME, and do not force it on anyone. Business goes down every day. Maybe they did not work hard enough, maybe timing was wrong, or maybe they just had bad luck. But that is the system. If people do not want to oay to support a business, then why should we force them too? That is this bill's purpose, to make people pay where they do not want to. |
Date | 04:13:17, May 04, 2006 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | The Citizens Party supports welfare for our individual constituents, but not corporate welfare. We continue to oppose measures that move into that direction. |
Date | 04:26:13, May 04, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | This is hardly corporate welfare. Government support of failing industries, not failing corporations, is not corporate welfare. The whole issue seems wrought with misunderstanding. All governments provide subsidies. It is insane not to, especially in industrial cases, where the production of coal, iron, reactable uranium, steel etc. are essential to the prosperity of the entire nation. To put it in the only language the Conservative Party seems to understand: these are goods the GOVERNMENT and the COUNTRY buys, not INDIVIDUALS. |
Date | 05:33:43, May 04, 2006 CET | From | BigBoss Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | We Support. |
Date | 20:58:45, May 04, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | So then why would they go bankrupt? If they did, prices for those products would go up, and more companies arise. |
Date | 00:37:30, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | You generalise far too much. Some industry, industry that is essential to Jelbania, needs support. Industry that does not produce a 'product', that instead provides a resource, or an essential service. |
Date | 05:01:06, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | The government should not have to bail out struggling private enterprises and force the taxpayer to foot the bill. We do not have a cornucopian budget. |
Date | 21:35:08, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | Why should we force taxpayers to pay for others' health or education, either? It is the same. |
Date | 21:59:34, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | because health and education should provide free to all, non-profit making services. |
Date | 01:53:52, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Growth and Prosperity Party | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | This is a terrible idea. It creates zomibe companies that basically roam around and suck the profits out of entire industries because it subsides poorly run companies at the expense of well-run ones. Companies that face bankruptycy because they make decisions, right or wrong, and must stick by them. Guaranteeing that they can be bailed out creates a HUGE moral hazard and encourages risky investment that hurts everyone. We can not budge one inch on this issue. |
Date | 03:12:58, May 08, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Industry Act 2221 |
Message | Monetarism does not work, this is a self evident fact. Only through investment in the economy can the government improve the economy. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 236 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 389 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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