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Bill: Industry Act 2221

Details

Submitted by[?]: Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2224

Description[?]:

Whereas, the government provided no support to industry, essential or otherwise, endangering jobs, the economy and the security of the Free Republic.

Therefore, should this bill pass into law, the government shall do what is proper to protect the citizens of Jelbania, the welfare of the nation and her industry and th essential industries of the Free Republic.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date03:45:32, May 03, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageThe DLP is determined to see reform in this area, even if it is watered down.

Date04:09:40, May 03, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageNo.

Date04:31:15, May 03, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageWhilst the GMP agrees with the DLP's desire for reform, it does not support the proposal put forward in any sense.

Date13:55:39, May 03, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageWhy? It seems the other parties here have ABSOLUTELY NO economic sense whatsoever. Monetarism does not work. The government needs to inject money into the economy to support it.

The DLP has seen no good argument for the campaign of privatisation put forward by the Conservative party and the Conservative party continues to present none. The DLP would also have thought the GMP may have supported reform for the good of the nation.

Date03:42:48, May 04, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageI have economic sense; I simply use it with ME, and do not force it on anyone. Business goes down every day. Maybe they did not work hard enough, maybe timing was wrong, or maybe they just had bad luck. But that is the system. If people do not want to oay to support a business, then why should we force them too? That is this bill's purpose, to make people pay where they do not want to.

Date04:13:17, May 04, 2006 CET
FromCentre Démocratique
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageThe Citizens Party supports welfare for our individual constituents, but not corporate welfare. We continue to oppose measures that move into that direction.

Date04:26:13, May 04, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageThis is hardly corporate welfare. Government support of failing industries, not failing corporations, is not corporate welfare. The whole issue seems wrought with misunderstanding.

All governments provide subsidies. It is insane not to, especially in industrial cases, where the production of coal, iron, reactable uranium, steel etc. are essential to the prosperity of the entire nation.

To put it in the only language the Conservative Party seems to understand: these are goods the GOVERNMENT and the COUNTRY buys, not INDIVIDUALS.

Date05:33:43, May 04, 2006 CET
FromBigBoss Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageWe Support.

Date20:58:45, May 04, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageSo then why would they go bankrupt? If they did, prices for those products would go up, and more companies arise.

Date00:37:30, May 05, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageYou generalise far too much. Some industry, industry that is essential to Jelbania, needs support. Industry that does not produce a 'product', that instead provides a resource, or an essential service.

Date05:01:06, May 05, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageThe government should not have to bail out struggling private enterprises and force the taxpayer to foot the bill. We do not have a cornucopian budget.

Date21:35:08, May 05, 2006 CET
FromFree Conservative Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageWhy should we force taxpayers to pay for others' health or education, either? It is the same.

Date21:59:34, May 05, 2006 CET
FromGreen Manalishi Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
Messagebecause health and education should provide free to all, non-profit making services.

Date01:53:52, May 06, 2006 CET
FromGrowth and Prosperity Party
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageThis is a terrible idea. It creates zomibe companies that basically roam around and suck the profits out of entire industries because it subsides poorly run companies at the expense of well-run ones. Companies that face bankruptycy because they make decisions, right or wrong, and must stick by them. Guaranteeing that they can be bailed out creates a HUGE moral hazard and encourages risky investment that hurts everyone. We can not budge one inch on this issue.

Date03:12:58, May 08, 2006 CET
FromJelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
ToDebating the Industry Act 2221
MessageMonetarism does not work, this is a self evident fact.

Only through investment in the economy can the government improve the economy.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 236

no
    

Total Seats: 389

abstain
  

Total Seats: 0


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