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Bill: A lighter Welfare State
Details
Submitted by[?]: Al'Badaran Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2225
Description[?]:
| As arguments before on "Kill the Welfare state" bill |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Current: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:07:10, May 04, 2006 CET | From | Black Militant Party | To | Debating the A lighter Welfare State |
| Message | The BMP supports a lighter welfare state. All people especially black people have been depending on the government to much and it is not making my people progress in life. We are stuck in the same hole that we have been in years ago. If you have ever been in the ghettos of Al'Badara, you will see poor people depending on the government that have no motivation to truly work. This is what the BMP calls explotation of black and all of Al'Badarians. Giving the people money does not make anyone progress in society. We need to liberate ourselves from our own government. |
| Date | 03:31:16, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Order of Light | To | Debating the A lighter Welfare State |
| Message | Or we can just KILL welfare and remove this wasteful and worthless expense off the government books... |
| Date | 04:57:47, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Black Militant Party | To | Debating the A lighter Welfare State |
| Message | Killing it would be better though... |
| Date | 07:48:26, May 05, 2006 CET | From | Al'Badaran Conservative Party | To | Debating the A lighter Welfare State |
| Message | I agree with the concept that we should change the percpective of the common Al'Badaran that "I can live fine whether I worked or not" to "I have to work to live" but I am worried that if we "killed" all welfare those who are willing to work but cannot find a job have to suffer. Maybe we should kill child benefit. But I am in favour of keeping the status quo on minimum wage and adopting my proposed change to the minimum income. On pension, I am inclined to agree that there must be a pension, although I do not have strong feelings on this subject. |
| Date | 00:13:45, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Al'Badaransk Arisk Folkeparti | To | Debating the A lighter Welfare State |
| Message | Article 1 through 3 are plausible. I'd vote yes. |
| Date | 13:04:38, May 08, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the A lighter Welfare State |
| Message | If I vote for this yoy vote for the sultanate |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 441 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 207 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 102 |
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