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Bill: National Service Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Green Manalishi Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2228
Description[?]:
| The current legislation is archaic and impedes freedom of choice for our citizens. If we allow people to follow various religions, then it is hypocritical to stop believers in pacifism living by their convictions. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:26:56, May 12, 2006 CET | From |  Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | "The current legislation is archaic and impedes freedom of choice for our citizens. If we allow people to follow various religions, then it is hypocritical to stop believers in pacifism living by their convictions." I like peace too. However, sitting on your butt while your home is being attacked is not smart. The current policy only forces people to join in times of war. War is an option. Not always a good option. Certainly not the first option. But an option none the less. I would like no draft, but if the country needs you and you do stand for your country, you will help protect. |
| Date | 04:26:28, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | We feel that the FCP's argument was essentially self-defeated after making the admission that "war is an option". |
| Date | 22:21:13, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | It is an option. Actually, you may be right. If our country is attacked, it is not an Option. We MUST fight. Or should we keep the peace by giving up our land and people? |
| Date | 23:02:16, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | yes! exactly it IS an option. yet the FCP goes on to say "if the country needs you"...you must go. Doesn't seem fair that warmongerers get the choice of whether to go to war or not, but the citizens get no choice in being dragged along. |
| Date | 02:52:28, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | Well, as you said before, I am here because the people elected me. Am I not an acurate representation of many people? "Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military." They CAN be required. I think we would not go to war Voluntarily if it forced us to implement the draft. The current law gives us the option; they do not Have to be drafted. |
| Date | 03:04:51, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | but if they ARE drafted then they DO have to go. it's a politically correct facade of freedom, one of many. |
| Date | 06:06:35, May 14, 2006 CET | From | BigBoss Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | We disagree, we feel that if our numbers(military) are low (god forbid) then we must look to our other options which is a draft, now we all may not like it (i know we dont really) but relying on pure patriotism may not hold us. (of note) JELBANIA WILL NEVER FALL. |
| Date | 06:47:26, May 14, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | if our numbers are low then it is an answer in itself. |
| Date | 14:20:40, May 15, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the National Service Bill |
| Message | For future reference, we would like to just remind the FCP of its first response - "sitting on your butt while your home is being attacked is not smart" -It is a cheap remark that undermines a percentage of our demographic that is almost certainly more numerous than that of Christians, yet somehow it is acceptable to make such remarks against these believers whilst the FCP gets hysterical about honest criticism of certain religions. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 121 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 386 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 118 |
| Random fact: Jelbic = "Group of cultures with an overall Central Asian/Eurasian steppe theme, using a fictional language developed specifically for Particracy". |
| Random quote: "Racism is man's gravest threat to man - the maximum of hatred for a minimum of reason." - Abraham Joshua Heschel |