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Bill: Alcoholic Beverages Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Green Manalishi Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2228
Description[?]:
| a) we believe in more quality control in this area to secure the safety of our citizens b) the right to drink alcohol (ooc: as long as it's not crap like Southern Comfort, Bud, Fosters, Carling etc. though unfortunately there's no specific legislation for these) is a matter of civil liberties. if kids want to get drunk at 14, why shouldn't they? As Twain once said "I've never let schooling interfere with my education" (note: this quote is likely to be regurgitated often in the future by the GMP because we like it). |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased and consumed anywhere, but only by adults.
Current: Alcoholic beverage regulations are not imposed by the government.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, but consumed by anyone.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:37:36, May 12, 2006 CET | From |  Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Question: since you are ok with kids getting booz(I am ok with that), what are you protecting the people from by liscenses? Seems a little criss-crossy. BTW, I like Mark Twain, too. Is he the guy that said that wise people but all their eggs in one basket, but watch that basket closely? |
| Date | 04:40:02, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Protecting the quality of what alcohol is sold. Once we ensure this then we feel that we have played our part in the mutual relationship between state and citizen by ensuring the provision of safe produce. The decision and responsibility to consume alcohol in the first place should belong to the citizen. Not sure if that quote is Twain or not, but he certainly has a lot attributed to him, so wouldn't be surprised. Another favourite is: "Get your facts right first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." |
| Date | 21:41:38, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Growth and Prosperity Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | All this does is create a cartel of liquor licenses, like in New York City. Oppose |
| Date | 22:16:58, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Why do the people not ensure the quality? They can taste; they know what they like. The quality does not need to be protected. |
| Date | 23:25:28, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | yes they can. but should a man have to taste poison to know what it tastes like? |
| Date | 02:47:26, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | I think a poisonous food is a completaly different bill. |
| Date | 03:10:34, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | it was one of those absract concepts again FCP, should the GMP directly point them out in the future? Also, we're not talking about food, but drink. |
| Date | 21:57:47, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Wait, were you serious about the "poison," or were you refering to bad beer? |
| Date | 22:12:09, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | the idea was - why should someone have to taste a really bad drink/ potentially harmful drink to know it's that bad, when we could just protect them from having to do so in the first place? |
| Date | 22:13:47, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | ooc: btw, ever tried asahi or tsingtao? those 2 asian beers are shockingly bad! |
| Date | 03:27:13, May 15, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | That would go under "Food Safety policy." |
| Date | 15:49:22, May 15, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | We do not agree with allowing children to consume alcohol, although we do believe in licensing its sale. Possibly you can try again with this bill, without removing the age clause. |
| Date | 15:53:56, May 15, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | ooc: Were you drunk when you proposed this? ;-) |
| Date | 17:46:01, May 15, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | ooc: most probably, was experimenting with different world beers a lot last week! |
| Date | 19:49:38, May 15, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | "We do not agree with allowing children to consume alcohol..." The parents problem. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 121 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 386 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 118 |
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