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Bill: Legalised Drugs
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2069
Description[?]:
Art. 1 The production and the use of drugs are free. Art. 2 The distribution of drugs may only be done by the government. Art 3. Only adults may use drugs Art. 4 The gouvernment controls the quality of drugs. Art. 5 Drugs may not be used in public places. Art 6. Drugs can only be purchased with by owners of a drug card (linked to the identity card). Art 6. The gouvernment gives out drugscards in combination with information about the risks of the use of drugs and treatment facility's. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:58:00, June 18, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | The war on drugs is failing. Because drugs are expensive and the borders of our country's are long, whe can't prevent drugs from coming into our country. Drugs are very bad for the health of our people, especially because they are poluted by the maffia and because an addiction is so expensive that a healthy livestile is nolonger possible. If drugs were legal they wouldn't cost much more than bread and the government could control the minimum quality, just like the quality of food and products. If drugs were legal the drugrelated crime would decline. Drugs are allready easy to get, but with a relatively high risk. Tests in Holland have proven that the use of drugs does not grow if drugs are regulated by the gouvernment, but the health of the users is much better and most of them stop with stealing. (because they need less money) |
| Date | 18:58:53, June 18, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | Sorry for my bad English, I primarly speak dutch and frysian. |
| Date | 19:05:40, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Christian Liberal Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | You know you're supposed to get three comments from other parties before putting bills to vote, right? We've just passed a drug sentencing bill, so to then make drugs legal negates the point of that really. From me, it's a no. |
| Date | 20:47:28, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Sanctaphrax Party (Mod) | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | I have to agree with Christian Liberal's here. Technically I should vote no just because it hasn't passed the Lengthening of Debate Act, but we'll overlook it this time as you are new to the Poltical scene. However our vote remains no for other reasons. |
| Date | 20:48:32, June 18, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | Should this be an ammendment on the bill on drugs? With extra exceptions on the ban of drugs? I can rewrite the proposal and re-introduce it. |
| Date | 06:02:37, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | For one thing, this should have a proposal attached to legalize medical marijuana nationwide. For another thing, we have some reservations about the last 2 articles (6 and 6?). |
| Date | 10:32:08, June 19, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | lol |
| Date | 13:07:29, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | I have significant reservations about the role of the state in the production and distribution of drugs while it remains essentially capitalist. |
| Date | 13:37:00, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Federal Technocrats | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | Overlooking the breach in debate length conduct, we support this bill because it will save lives. Even reducing the sentencing won't stop the shoddy producers, most lives being lost not from specific overdoses but from poisoning due to other impurities. If this bill did something, we'd like it. |
| Date | 16:36:41, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | The ID card has in fact been withdrawn, negating Article 6. Most of our country is bordered by sea. This is also at odds with a Governmental drive to reduce drug use. Although it would remain illegal for minors, it would also make it easier for them to obtain drugs, and therefore all the risks that such use entails. |
| Date | 16:39:29, June 19, 2005 CET | From |  First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | I'm quite happy to bring back the ID card though... |
| Date | 17:04:16, June 19, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | A border of sea doesn't make it much harder to import drugs. Take a container, load it on a ship, use a crane to put the container over board and let it sink to the sea buttom at 100 metres from the coast. Give the coordinates to a littler ship with a crane. Let divers put chains arround the container, and pull it to the coast. This is a well nown way of importing drugs. And the risk is very low, because the container does not pass a mainport with security devises. It is almost impossible to patrol the coast 24/7 with enough policeboats. People want drugs, there is a big market, whe can't prevent drugs from getting in. Whe make it very easy for the maffia to make a lot of money with very dangorous poluted drugs. This maffia also has ways to make people addicted. They give it to children for free, they blackmail people to take drugs, etc. And don't forget how many people or addicted to legal drugs, like alcohol and sleeping pills. The difference is that those people have a much smaller chance to and up in the gutter because that drugs is legal and much cheaper. |
| Date | 18:56:08, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Federation | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | We back this bill overlooking the breach in debate conduct and the lack of a proposal as the communist party stated. |
| Date | 03:46:14, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | As the Minister for Health & SS I vehementally condemn this idea. Limited drugs can be legalised by local governments for medicinal purposes under the closely watchful eye of doctors. To have it wildly accessible would lead to a crisis in our hospitals. Overdoses, cases of HIV and other blood-transferrable infections will explode. Now we have extensive rehab programs, and if you are questioning the ability of Hutori's police force, I'm sure the Minister of Internal Affairs can help. ooc: oops forgot I didn't send this. |
| Date | 06:33:31, June 20, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | Sorry, we are busy arresting dissidents... William McBride Minister for Internal Affairs. |
| Date | 14:41:18, June 20, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Legalised Drugs |
| Message | RRP, drugs are very easy to get on our streets and in surton pubs. Wy would the use of drugs increase if whe legalised it, and make it only accesseble for people that have a special card? And the police have better things to do then work on the lost case of trying to get drugdealers and smugglers. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 11 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 172 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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