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Bill: Death Penalty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party for the Promotion of Pandas
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2232
Description[?]:
I always always ALWAYS get put as minister of Justice, and Jacobins proposal has it too. so i ask yu, WHY is there still a death penalty? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 07:23:55, May 22, 2006 CET | From | H.C.P.Z | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | SAZ is for the death penalty |
Date | 07:28:35, May 22, 2006 CET | From | H.C.P.Z | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | Another interesting semi-off topic remark: I always get put as Minister of I&T and we still have a privitized system? I guess its just one of those weird things... Might be cause #1 i never post any bills or #2 the fact I know after all that education rubbish the majority of the people are happy with the government funding and would be unlikely to support any more taxes or spending (i might sound like a jerk here also.. sorry) |
Date | 19:44:11, May 22, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | The Daiokurans are also pro-death penalty. As for your off-topic remark, it merely sounds as though you have come to understand the social dynamic of the nation better, and this in itself is commendable. |
Date | 20:28:16, May 23, 2006 CET | From | Jacobin Society | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | Daio has it right. If we, the leftist parties of Zardugal want more socialization, its going to be a slooooow move. Any radical change could upset the delicate balance of the quality of services and overthrow the entire agenda. In regards to the present bill, this is a sticky subject. Let's talk hypothetically about a pyscho killer sentenced to death; on the one hand, he is being forcefully removed from society and the state no longer needs to pay for his incarceration. On the other, the state is essentially stooping to the killer's level by putting him to death. Finally, one must consider the fate of the few who are sentenced to death un-fairly. Those who are innocent, but by some unfortunate flaw in the system, they are sent to death row. Judging by what the likely vote breakdown is to be, the Jacobins will so 'no' to the death penalty, for now. |
Date | 20:28:47, May 23, 2006 CET | From | Jacobin Society | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | "No" as in "yes" for this bill. |
Date | 03:20:45, May 24, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | I then propose an amendment to the current law in place. Should evidence conclusive be found to those put to death, the next-of-kin shall be awarded z35,000 per year of incarceration of the deceased, plus 5 years income based upon the income of the deceased prior to arrest (if said income is zero up to three months prior to incarceration, an additional two years incarceration will be added) as reparations to either the spouse, direct next-of-kin or parents (priority in that order). |
Date | 07:56:05, May 24, 2006 CET | From | Party for the Promotion of Pandas | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | I dunno about that Daio, It IS compensation for a lost life. And it is much fairer then no award at all. But a wise man* once said "Life is worth much more than gold." *this wise man is, of course, Bob Marley |
Date | 18:31:00, May 24, 2006 CET | From | Jacobin Society | To | Debating the Death Penalty |
Message | That's a very good point. Money is no replacement for a lost life, especially a life lost due to error. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 104 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 88 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 141 |
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