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Bill: Voting Age Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Workers Democratic Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2070
Description[?]:
| People become adults and so can vote at 16, giving youth a greater say in how the country is run |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age at which a person is considered an adult (limited between 12 and 24).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:00:38, June 20, 2005 CET | From |  Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | We agree. |
| Date | 18:25:51, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Workers Democratic Union | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | Woohoo someone agrees with one of my proposals! |
| Date | 18:54:52, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | But how politically aware are Alorian youth? |
| Date | 18:55:24, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | Not decided yet, but I would like to hear arguments, why 16, not 18 (traditional age), not 17, not 21? |
| Date | 19:03:12, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Workers Democratic Union | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | If we want Alorian youth to be politically aware as FDP puts it then allowing to have a political voice is the best ay to do it. I believe the views of younger people are often ignored in the political process, this will force politicians to listen to them. |
| Date | 19:04:16, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Workers Democratic Union | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | p.s. I can go to the vote on this now, yeah? |
| Date | 19:10:17, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | Voting no, because this requires serious discussion not just four posts. |
| Date | 19:52:37, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | I don't agree. I am a teacher, and before that, well, I was part of youth myself. I can testify that the most heard opinion of 18-year olds who have to go voting are: why do we have to? I don't understand the whole political thing anyway. Besides, voting is not just expressing an opinion, which everyone is able to. Voting is in the end taking part in the process of decision making. And we believe a certain maturity is absolutely necessary for that. I'm sorry to say so, but 16 year olds are not mature enough in our opinion to be given the right to vote. We would however agree to the installation of local youth counsels that can advise cities and villages on the effect their policy has on the youth. That also strenghtens the voice of our young citizens, whitout loading them with the burden of policy. Let teenagers be teenagers, allow them to be irresponsible while they can, and don't take away the last part of their childhood and puberty. |
| Date | 20:11:26, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | I agree with SCP |
| Date | 20:21:34, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Workers Democratic Union | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | I know many people who are under 18 who are more politically astute than plenty of 'adults' I know |
| Date | 21:52:22, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the Voting Age Bill |
| Message | That's not an argument. because I also now 14 year olds who are more grown up than 16 year olds, and I know 12 year olds who are more astute than 14 year olds, and so one. This bill is about an age limite, and age, unfortunately, never means a clear indication that someone is mature enough to do anything. But, if you like, you may introduce a bill reserving the right to vote to those people who have taken and passed for a political exam? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 122 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 171 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 107 |
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