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Bill: Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow
Details
Submitted by[?]: Protectorate Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2071
Description[?]:
| Crime is prevalent in Malivia especially among the youth. We must lead them back to path of the straight and narrow and the only effective way for this is through prayer. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:17:12, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | Where are these crime statistics the PP is refering to. We haven't seen any indication that crime is an issue or on the rise in Malivia, or that prayer would change this at all. This is nothing more than the PP making up statistics to justify their increasingly fringe ideology. |
| Date | 04:47:25, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | Organised religion is rolling the dice. In some cases, it makes people good and kind to eachother. But it opens them to manipulation, to reliance, and to hatred. Manipulation is obvious - just make the priests and clergy of the chruch say that something is God's will. Reliance on the iconography of the faith can be manipulated by those who prey on others, by violence and destruction. And religion can lead to hatred, because some people cannot share the same holy city with people of another faith. We see no reason to infringe upon a person's right to worship, however, we will not encourage this with government funds. By the way, our Education correspondant has repeatedly told us that we do not have enough time in class to have prayers - we regularily have classes miss or almost miss a part of the curriculem. Do you want uneducated prayers, or educated atheists? I know which I would chose. |
| Date | 05:00:36, June 22, 2005 CET | From |  Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | Education is more then book learning. We should be working toward producing intelligent, caring, and moral children to become a better leader for tomorrow. As for clergy manipulating the people, we hope to bring the religion, as there is only one true Faith, under the control of the government to help prevent this sort of abuse and weed out those clergy members who are not preaching the Truth. We would support the uneducated devout individual over the educated athesist any day. The devout might not be schooled in book learning but will lead a righteous path, which will be better for the nation in the long run. As for the statistics on crime, we don't need a high priced study of crime rates. Ask your neighbor, your churchmembers, or the shopkeeper down the street. It is well known outside these halls that the country has lost its way and needs guidance. People do not have the same respect for each other as they did a decade or two ago. Perhaps not your churchmember as many of those assembled in this body have shown their lack of faith. |
| Date | 09:50:07, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | One true faith? And who gets to decide what that is? Is the PP now happily discarding the concept of minority rights? And this statement: "We would support the uneducated devout individual over the educated athesist any day." really speaks for itself. |
| Date | 10:39:51, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | hehehe. no. |
| Date | 23:12:21, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | We defend the rights of the minority, but we feel that the LevP and us have a different opinion on what these rights are. What about the rights of the clerk shot down but gang violence, what about the rights of the mother who lives surrounded by drug dealers and looses her children to them. As for what is the one true faith we would welcome the members of the LevP to join us for a service so they may see it for themselves. |
| Date | 11:15:53, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Leading the Leaders of Tomorrow |
| Message | ooc: hahahaha. this is really funny. :D |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 16 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 84 | ||||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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