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Bill: Interrogation Methods
Details
Submitted by[?]: Protectorate Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2071
Description[?]:
Torture is an ugly word, we prefer to think that a police officer should be free to gain needed information. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 04:28:24, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | We look forward to defeating you one the voting floor. |
Date | 10:32:35, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | The FRP cannot support torture. |
Date | 10:36:03, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | torture isn't always effective: remember, under torture someone will say anything to get them to stop talking. |
Date | 19:04:02, June 22, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | Indeed. Torture works fairly well at getting your victim to tell you what they think you want to hear, but it's not much use when it comes to ascertaining the truth. Not to mention the obvious ethical issues. |
Date | 22:53:53, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | As we said torture can cover many different methods. We are not condoning bring back an iron maiden, but perhaps some very effective means to convince people to talk. Many speak of the ethical aspects of this proposal, but how ethical is it to allow information to go ungathered leading to other lives lost. |
Date | 02:53:41, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Radical Centrists | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | We are very concerned at the new direction being taken by the PP. ooc: I suppose someone had to play the right-wing nut! ;-) |
Date | 04:08:10, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | It is nice to here from the RC again we only hope that their members can see the Path that is opening in front of them. |
Date | 11:07:26, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | try not to get bulldozed eh RC? also, good to see your back. |
Date | 01:24:53, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Interrogation Methods |
Message | We're appalled at the suggestion. Appalled we say. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||||
yes |
Total Seats: 16 | ||||||||
no |
Total Seats: 84 | ||||||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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