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Bill: Forward: A plan for a future Kalopia

Details

Submitted by[?]: Αnypótakti

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 5275

Description[?]:

A proposal for the future

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date07:50:58, March 22, 2023 CET
FromUnited Kalopia - National Alliance
ToDebating the Forward: A plan for a future Kalopia
MessageArticle 4

Communists are banning cryptocurrencies for no reason.

Article 5

You make a bad impression on us. According to communists, anyone who commits crimes against humanity should not be punished with the death penalty, but should be free to commit as many crimes as they want.

Article 13

And who will cover the resulting costs? Does your party?

Article 15

So the police, fire service and army can go on strike too, right?

Article 20

And if a child has a health problem, what happens?

Date12:48:37, March 22, 2023 CET
FromDimokratiki Symmaxia
ToDebating the Forward: A plan for a future Kalopia
MessageEven PDP rejects this ridiculous law...

Date22:23:15, March 22, 2023 CET
FromΑnypótakti
ToDebating the Forward: A plan for a future Kalopia
MessageMembers of this Chamber,

Let me explain this for United Kalopia, and dismantling their points one by one.

Regarding cryptocurrencies, it is not "for no reason". Cryptocurrencies, apart of being extremely harmful for the environment for the big amount of materials and sources they require to keep working, are just another form for capitalism to attract our young people and take their money away. There is nothing safe nor groundbreaking in cryptocurrencies.

Secondly, being against death penalty does not mean that "should be free to commit as many crimes as they want.
". This is not black or white, and United Kalopia should know better, but of course that would go against their ultrarethoric. Death penalty is a barbaric act unfitted por societies that call themselves "democratic". Death penalty, the death of another human person, does not bring back whatever they may have taken from us. It may look like justice, but it is not. It is revenge. And what about those who kill a murderer? Do they not become murderers too? Where do we draw the line then? Is our judicial system perfect enough to ensure that NO ONE, and I repeat, NOT A SINGLE person that is condemned to the death penalty, will be later proven to be innocent?

Who will cover the resulting costs? IT may sound unfamiliar to United Kalopia, but this nation has the luck to have a public healthcare system, and contributions from all its citizens, to continue developing a better society.

Indeed, police and fire service can go on strike. That is the purpose. If you have them happy enough, then there is no reason for them to go on strike. And do not take Kalopians for stupid people: they can clearly differenciate when a strike has its reasons and when it is unfounded. About the army, the military has its own code, and as government, you should know about it. But who cares at this point, right?

If a child has a health problem, it is of course contemplated in the medical protocols. Don't dress your negationism under a false layer of "child protection". Vaccines are safe, vaccines are good, and the medical system has its own protocols to deal with health-related issues in both children and adults. That does not mean we shouldn't protect our society. I don't know if the members of United Kalopia have ever heard of "herd immunity", but that is one of the most effective ways to protect ourselves.

Date22:24:43, March 22, 2023 CET
FromΑnypótakti
ToDebating the Forward: A plan for a future Kalopia
MessageMembers of the Chamber,

As for the comment coming from the representative of Dimokratiki Symmaxia, we once again refrain to argue with someone that sold its ideals for chairs

Date22:47:02, March 22, 2023 CET
FromFDK_
ToDebating the Forward: A plan for a future Kalopia
MessageWe disagree with 4,7, 8, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16 but we strongly agree with 1,2,3,5,20. After internal vote, we decided to abstain.
However, the cruel face of United Kalopia is clear again. Their anti democratic and anti constitutional language belongs to a past that we all must forget. Hopefully Kalopians will realize that and show you the way out soon.

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