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Bill: Immigration and Refugee Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Jakania Union Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2257

Description[?]:

This proposal will tighten immigration standards and provision of aid to refugees.

The JUP believes that Jakanians are welcoming of people who come here to better their lives, but demand a stop to unrestricted immigration and for their tax money to be spent only on true hardship cases.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date09:30:18, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Republican Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageBOO! BOO! BOO! (ruckus) BOO! (toss paper) BOO! (fuming) People have the right to come here, Jakinia is seen as a land of opportunity. Immigrants should be welcomed at all time, plus it is a bit of political reasons too. It would hurt my foregin relations but mainly my ideology of having immigrants come here freely.

We cannot support your (spit) bill.

Date09:47:18, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Union Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessagePlease....please, calm down. Calm down. It's all right. The nice ladies will be around with the milk and cookies shortly.

Jakanians, please note the conduct of the Republicans. Please note their refusal to protect your tax money. Please note their support for the character of the entire nation to be changed by an influx of immigrants and refugees.

This is a country that welcomes those who help themselves. But this is also a country that has an absolute absence of standards when it comes to who is allowed to come here.

This is a country that comforts the hurting. But this is also a country that must help only those who truly hurt. Jakanians do not demand their tax money be spent on the so-called refugees at the expense of the pensioner who has worked his life to have just a little bit.

Jakanians, the JUP is fighting for you. For your neighborhoods. For your families. The Government has shown its true colors. It cares not for you, but for those who would come here and do your jobs for less.

Date12:35:28, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Republican Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageOnly article 2 is giving tax money to refugees not all immigrants. Immigrants shape the character if this nation also, not just the citizens. Why restrict immigrantion? They do not cost us money, refugees do, but how many do come, I think they have plenty of options to choose from.

Refugees come in some catagories
1. Natural disaster
2. Famine
3. War
4. Political
5. Ethnic

You know the rest\r\nThey are given aid, they made choose to turn down the aid but people, plus what is the line of "true hardship" cases? Every one of those points up there a of hardship, they would not be called refugees for nothing. They are escaping from some hardship. Every refugee has hardship and when they come here they are usually poor and is suffering mentally. The last part of the current law states,"given aid in intergrating them into the country". The aid is only to get them back on their feet.

Do not give me that bullshit on not protecting Jakinian tax money, we just place where it is more important. It is just like you said in the Museum Bill, the locals will prioitize the money, well we are prioitizing. We said keep giving aid to refugees and to museums, you say the opposite. Now you know why we are pretty pissed off.

Then you say "absolute abssence of standards when it comes to who is allowed to come here"(JUP). If you think of it logically, the current policy is a standard, its the "Open Arms Policy".

Then the last sentence just urks us. We do care about the citizens of Jakinia, we just think that funding for new people is better money spent then museums (they are not bad but the private sector would be better in funding). After the "but" word is a classic conservative statement, just like the ones I here about in real life about the immigrantion bill in the US. We are talking about legal immigrants, so they do not do Jakinian jobs for less. Also it impiles a racial statement that immigrantion should curbed because immigrant take Hakinian jobs.

I just thought of another reason, we will be paying for them anyways with welfare and such so why not help them not so that they can produce something and be successful and not flounder.

Pretty much everything is a bunch of bullshit, boy I would like to deck your faces. This was the biggest bunch of bullshit I have every seen in all political invovlement in Jakinia.

Citizens of Jakinia, the JUP is duping you. The JRP thinks that all people are equal and the citizens of Jakinia deserve the equal view point of the immigrants.We do not think either is more important than the other. The JUP is ranting on some Nationalism scheme. But I tell you want, we were not one of the first nations, we are an immigrant nation, So the JUP should get use to that.

Date22:18:44, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Union Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageWe find it utterly hilarious that the JRP of all parties would accuse us of ranting when they themselves use language like "deck your faces" and "the biggest bunch of bullshit." The JRP's conduct in this Assembly has been a living, breathing example of "Pot. Kettle. Black."

We won't even address the JRP's spurious claims of racism, as it resorts to -isms and name-calling in a desperate attempt to cling to the power it feels it is entitled to.

The JRP advocates an open door policy that it laughingly calls a standard. Citizens of Jakania, would leaving the doors of your home open for anyone to come into be a standard? Yet that is exactly what the JRP supports.

The JUP advocates a responsible immigration policy, one that provides your money only to people who desperately need it. The JRP thinks the purpose of government is to take your money and give it to someone else.

Date22:37:10, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Republican Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessagePeople have a right to live here. You cannot compare the open door policy to a person's house door open. It is not the same thing. If something is currently and has been here for some time would be considered a standard.

For refugees, they all need aid in some amount. What, should I just spend tax money on other things besides what Jakinians think they want. Who is able to call that shot, us? No way. What is extreme circumstances? All refugees come from extreme circumstances of a degree, so the current law works.

This name calling is for a reason, you degrading our party, it is not for keeping our power. I do not where you get that reasoning but you are quite quick to assume.

Date22:55:00, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Union Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageThe JRP has quite a strange view on rights. Do we also have the right to live in the Republic of Cobura or the Independent Wantuni Republic? We believe those nations would look askance at that position, and rightly so.

The primary purpose of government is to protect the national borders, both from military action and from unrestricted immigration. Any government that cannot or will not accomplish that does not deserve to continue. The Republicans' open door policy is an example of a government refusing to defend the borders.

Date23:09:22, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Republican Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageUmm, this is for legal immigrantion not illigal. We passed a law that the government actively searches for illiegals and deports them. What your proposals are for is for restricting legal immigrantion.

Date23:16:35, June 30, 2006 CET
FromJakania Union Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageAll immigration involves defending our borders.

Date19:44:03, July 01, 2006 CET
FromJakania Republican Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageThen you should have a article on the border security, not immigrantion.

Date21:49:10, July 01, 2006 CET
FromJakania Union Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageImmigration is part of border security.

Date15:12:02, July 19, 2006 CET
FromJakania Reform Party
ToDebating the Immigration and Refugee Act
MessageDon't you understand, JUP? The Republicans are mentally incapable of arguing with big words :D

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