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Bill: School Age Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal-Progressive Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2071
Description[?]:
| Lowers the age from 18 to 16 the required age for compulsory schooling. Since at age 16 that person is considered a legal adult, the current law prevents legal adults from making the choice to discontinue their own schooling. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:01:30, June 23, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the School Age Reform |
| Message | Lowers age from 18 to 16 the compulsory schooling requirement. At 16 that person is a legal adult and the decision to leave school should not be impeded by the government. |
| Date | 08:21:38, June 23, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the School Age Reform |
| Message | QUOTE WSS - " With the current retirement age set at 70 (which was raised from 62 I believe), there would have been a restructuring of the job markets (though without the economy set up we would never know to what extent). The extra 2 years of education would be used to prepare people for the future, whatever type of employment they should wish for, in an environment to which they are already acostomed. Post 16 education would consist (for those 2 years) of those students being able to try differing forms of employment in a apprenticeship format or, should students wish to continue on to University, a scholastic format. It would also mean that students would be more highly educacted, providing those educated within the Hobrazian school system an automatic advantage over those of other Countries, would will be extremely beneficial to us when we finally get the economic system in place." We agree with that. Perhaps it would be better to increase the age of adulthood to 18 to solve your problems. OOC: Next time keep bills in debate so we can discuss them fully and suggest modifications. |
| Date | 08:30:43, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the School Age Reform |
| Message | I apologize for that. I intened to put it for debate but I fouled up somewhere and I saw it was up for vote. I've been trying to figure out how to cancel this thing. Not a good first performance in legislation on my part. Again, sorry. |
| Date | 08:45:21, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the School Age Reform |
| Message | Your points are valid. But those to whom I am referring are not those students who plan on going to a University or other highly skilled training programs. I believe keeping a would be drop out in school against their will, does more harm to them then if they were allowed to leave school legally. It's possible they can actually get a 2 year head start on apprenticeship type training and get the nessecary skills they otherwise wouldn't have. By keeping them against their will in a environment that is not suited for them, I feel they are not going to learn certain skills that they otherwise could. |
| Date | 10:21:13, June 23, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the School Age Reform |
| Message | We would request that you read over the existing legisalature, and the above quote from the UB (qouting me as it happens!). The two year head start in apprenticeship type training you say wouldn't happen as those students who do not wish to continue to University are given apprenticeship training for those two years already, but with the ability to change said apprenticeship within the confines of education thusly losing them nothing. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 159 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 241 |
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