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Bill: Free Thought Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Workers Democratic Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2071
Description[?]:
| People are free to practice religion as they please but there is no place for it in the education system |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:17:46, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | I'm opposed to this. This is up to individual schools. If people want to pray at a religious school, so be it. If people don't want their children to pray at school, they can send them to one that doesn't. |
| Date | 16:18:20, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | This is not a free thought bill, but restricting and sidelining one form of thought: religious, in favour of another: secularism. |
| Date | 17:48:32, June 23, 2005 CET | From |  Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | We agree with the FDP. |
| Date | 18:17:14, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | Yeah- freedom is giving people the ability to choose. Against. |
| Date | 18:33:32, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Workers Democratic Union | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | This bill is about giving children the freedom to choose rather than be told what to believe by their teachers, incidentally religious schools are currently illegal (it's a new option for legislation) |
| Date | 20:03:30, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Conservative Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | agree with FDP. Strongly against. |
| Date | 22:17:14, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | I am against |
| Date | 23:37:26, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | Against. |
| Date | 20:11:44, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | I am for. While the Freedom Party supports freedom of religion, it should not be up to the school to force religious beliefs upon children. |
| Date | 20:21:03, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | How many times do we need to repeat this? THEY HAVE THE CHOICE WHETHER THEY WANT TO PRAY OR NOT! And praying isn't quite forcing religious beliefs on people anyway. |
| Date | 01:07:08, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | YOUR MOTHER FAT ASS HOUSE! |
| Date | 01:26:50, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | Ok, but seriously. It says "teacher-led". In other words, an employee of the state is leading their pupils in a prayer. This is different than allowing children to pray on their own, or having ministers or what have you come in, in order to serve the needs of all different faiths. These prayers are being led by a person with authority, who is employed by the state. This is a blatant violation of the separation of church and state. |
| Date | 11:51:31, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Free Thought Bill |
| Message | It's not neccessaraly state schools that do it - indeed there are probably very few. And it is easy to abstain. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 12 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 293 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 95 |
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