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Bill: A Rational Cabinet
Details
Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2252
Description[?]:
| For the Good of Likatonians, our nation, our neighbours, and our future, we propose a cabinet designed with only one purpose. We need to pull together in the face of threats from both foreign nations, and from those within this government, to jeopardise all our futures. Let us show unity! |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Likaton Fascist Front
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the 
Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Imperial Socialist Movement (Reborn)
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Likaton Fascist Front
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Likaton Fascist Front
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the AM Radical Libertarian Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Right Wing Liberals Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Likaton Fascist Front
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the AM Radical Libertarian Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Right Wing Liberals Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the AM Radical Libertarian Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:36:02, July 10, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | The Anarch Anakrousite Party finds this prospect sinister. The Holy Star organisation seeks to create 'unity'... but their mechanism to do this is NOT discussion, debate, and meeting a consensus of opinions, on what EVERYONE can agree is best for Likatonia. Instead, the HSP seeks to define 'unity' as 'expelling dissenting voices'. It is a travesty. It is a mockery of our constitutional process. It is undemocatic. |
| Date | 19:42:35, July 10, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | From: Supreme Grand Lord Oreus Mallok VI I find that the response reeks of bitterness. Your party is irrelevant. The public think so. We think so. If this Bill is not democratic, the process certainly is, and we shall see where your support lies. The only dissenting voices we hear are yours, and this Cabinet will hopefully silence that whine. The Order will see your party gone, Anakrousis. Your time has passed. Watch your back. Supreme Grand Lord Oreus Mallok VI |
| Date | 19:52:45, July 10, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Socialist Movement (Reborn) | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | We are delighted, in this time of need, to be invited into a grand coalition. |
| Date | 19:58:44, July 10, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | The Anarch Anakrousite Party has no reason to be bitter. An undemocratic cabinet is something it is every citizen's DUTY to oppose. Thus - should your machinations bear fruit, the Anarch Anakrousite Party will happily form a Shadow-Cabinet. We hear the threats implicit... although, perhaps 'explicit' seems more appropriate... in the Holy Star rhetoric. The eyes of the world are on us, my friends. We SHALL 'watch our backs', and we shall do all we can to stop you from 'silencing 'that whine'. You do not scare us. Democracy will be your undoing. The people of Likatonia shall be our witnesses, and our vindication. |
| Date | 20:34:34, July 10, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | We find ourselves somewhat confused here. We have ususlly opposed the saber rattling which has been going on of late, yet we are being offered the Foreign Affairs ministry. Is this posing a change to the hard line of the past administration? Or, is this just window dressing to hide the intentions of a militaristic faction of our government? Please elaborate on your intentions. If there are reasons which should be kept private, PM me with your plans. |
| Date | 20:47:53, July 10, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | To: The AM Radical Libertarian Party From: Supreme Grand Lord Oreus Mallok VI We in the RSOHS have no hidden agenda. We seek to unify our nation, and all of its significant political factions. We believe that the AMRLP would not act counter to Likatonia's interests abroad, and that in order that we can find a solution to the Valaruzian problem, we ned to present a united front. We do not deny that we feel that Likatonian interests may be best served by taking a hard line, but we do not want war for the sake of it. And, despite the propaganda from the AAP(R), we do not want to split this great nation into squabbling factions. If you decide that you cannot on a coalition of the willing, so be it. If you can, however, we would welcome your party's influence and experience. War may be coming, it may be that we can forestall it through diplomacy. In either event, where would you be best placed to serve the citizens who have voted for you? Sincerely, Supreme Grand Lord Oreus Mallok VI |
| Date | 21:06:33, July 10, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | The HSP are certainly worth the LIKS spent on volume, if not on content. HSP are founder members of the organisation dedicated to Likatonian expasionism. It is dishonest to pretend that they have EVER opposed a military solution... or even looked for an alternative. Would Likatonia be best served by 'a hard line'? Hard to be sure... but it is a 'hard line' that GOT us here. HSP can try to sell AM RLP whichever bridge they are selling today, but the fact will remain... the HSP has opposed unity, and opposed peace, at ever turn. This is windowdressing. The HSP seems to incriminate the AM RLP, by making them APPEAR as culpable as the HSP and LFF already are. |
| Date | 12:46:51, July 11, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | The LFF beleives, sadly, that a military solution is the only solution, and it must be done quickly with conviction. Our forces are not the most ably suited for attack, but in defensive posture they are second to none. We should be walking through Zuma now, as flowers are thrown at our feet, not sitting on our collective hands while forces against us have a chance to mass. The LFF calls on the defence ministry regardless of which party ultimately controls it to send the troops into Zuma now to keep the suffering on all sides to the barest minimum. We are revolted that the moment a foriegn power calls into question our resolve that the pacifists suddenly find a united voice to kick the legs out from under our competant armed forces. |
| Date | 17:09:33, July 11, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | We fear that the LFF makes a basic mistake. The Anarch Anakrousite Party HAS openly admitted to being pro-demilitarisation. We are very much a pacifist party, and we admit it. We are unaware that there is grounds for the allegation that AM RLP or RWLP are 'pacifist' parties, however. Perhaps they are, perhaps not... PERHAPS, they just don't want to put Likatonian soldiers in the line of fire in Zuma, because Likaton Fascist Front hotheads have an agenda. |
| Date | 17:25:02, July 11, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | AM RLP is not now, nor ever has been, a pacifist party. Indeed, many of our most sever fights have been to boost the quality and use of our armed forces. We are, and always will be, a peaceful party. We believe, like Vegetius, in "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." but do not want our soldiers lifes expended in fooloish adventurism. |
| Date | 17:56:01, July 11, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the A Rational Cabinet |
| Message | "If you desire peace, prepare for war". Wise words. At the moment - the AAP favours disarmament... unilateral if it must be. We see the risks inherent in that system, and we see the wisdom in the AM RLP stance. We see our position as a natural balance.... if there are warmakers, there must be peacemakers... and the more extreme one gets, the more extreme the other must be. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 231 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 269 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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