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Bill: A hopeful end...
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party for the Promotion of Pandas
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2254
Description[?]:
| ... to Daois corruption. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:17:50, July 13, 2006 CET | From |  New Daio Party | To | Debating the A hopeful end... |
| Message | You would go against the people in such a way? Opinion polls place approval of the HoS proposing cabinets at 100%. |
| Date | 06:42:59, July 13, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the A hopeful end... |
| Message | Moreover. What you call corruption, I call strength. More than one party sees me as standing for Zardugal to be a major power on the world stage, while you advocate weakness in all it's forms. Hampering people from the ability to do their jobs. Hampering economic growth. Hampering the ability for people to become college-educated. Hampering our abilities in war. I've done my best to strike a balance amongst those that support me, something most if not all could be happy with, while maintaining my goal of being a strong nation. Since you oppose this, you are naturally incensed by what I do and how I do it. I advocate the strength and the welfare of Zardugal and it's people. I do what is best for them in all things. I would give my life in their defence. I seek to assure that no harm befall us. I seek to assure a very mentality that denies entitlement, denies poverty, denies hopelessness and despair. If you choose to fight me on this, that is your own problem. ~Atsuka Yamada, Consul |
| Date | 10:00:30, July 14, 2006 CET | From | Party for the Promotion of Pandas | To | Debating the A hopeful end... |
| Message | You beat me by one million votes in the last election. That was WITH all your endorsements. Other parties may see you fit to rule, but the people you claim to serve, the people I DO serve, would have time and again elected me. Perhaps it is weakness that drives me. Perhaps I am not fit to rule. But that seems to be what the people want. I will continue in my efforts to fight you, Daoi. You do stand for much of what I am against. I understand your want to have a great economy, but an economy should not exist for to exist, it should exist to serve its people, and all I have seen you do is dismantle its means of helping its people in the name of "Strengthening" it. Now, I am not an unreasonable person. When supplied with sufficient facts, I change. When in need, I compromise. Remember the days of Bachelor and how well we got along despite opposite idealogies. It is not so much the fact that your idealogies are different from mine that incenses me so. It is your arrongance. The fact that anyone who does not see things your way is "senseless", as you so eloquently put it when trying to coerce Jacobin against me. You degredate my ideas and bills, sometimes you even state what would not work. Perhaps I am a simpleton, but perhaps if you would explain WHY they would not work you could convince me. Failing that, we could strike compromises, as me and the Bachelors did. But you do not. And that is why I fight you. I have my sense of right and wrong, and helping your fellow man is what is right. That is what my party does, and will continue to do. Through your series of endorsements youve solidified power, effectively locking me out of most positions. Still I continue to remain a strong party, and I will use that strength to continue to fight until someone with sense and compromise, knowledge and campassion, is in power. By the way things have gone, that person will almost certainly not be you. You seem to be very bright Daoi, but remember what I have said. Arrogance earns you no friends. ~Arsonius Zengel, Chairman of the Frogmarch Party, currently the largest party in Zardugal |
| Date | 14:04:33, July 14, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the A hopeful end... |
| Message | Blah blah blah. your visibility is higher, and is the only reason you get those kinds of votes. People can and should take care of themselves. If you look around, there is no real need for us to provide all these things, because most people that are 'broke' can afford them. I help my fellow man by letting him live his life without undue burden from the state, as it should be in every free society. And of course, by sense and competence, you mean weak and socialist. And, on this issue, the people have already OVERWHELMINGLY spoken, literally 100% support in favor of the current settings. Hit the news archives if you don't believe me. As for my support? Like-minded individuals. You'll note I have the communists in my coalition, so a difference of economic ideology isn't a big factor. ~Atsuka Yamada, Consul |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 147 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 186 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "The key to understanding the American system is to imagine that you have the power to make nearly any law you want, but your worst enemy will be the one to enforce it." - Rick Cook |