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Bill: Freedom of Assembly Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Democratic Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2072
Description[?]:
| The current law not only limits liberties to assemble in groups but also allows for police officers to target groups which they have a personal grudge against or through prejudice and discrimination. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Current: The police may disperse a group without giving any reason.
Proposed: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:26:53, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | How can an entire group of police have a single grudge against a particular group all at once? Your crazy! And this just simply prevents murders, innocent deaths, and civilians from overthrowing the government. Jesus. I thought you wanted to save people's lives. Not just let them riot and burn buildings. |
| Date | 04:16:43, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | That is no longer assembly, when that occurs it breaks several other laws which makes it illegal. With the current law though, at a simple protest, a police officer can just arrest some people for the reason that: they could be a potential risk to public safety, when the person was in fact peacefully demonstrating.
When a demonstration or assembly escalates to violence, then that is no longer assembly, it is a riot and is dealt as such. |
| Date | 05:54:02, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | Okay, let me put your words in an example.
Your saying that in a protest of about 100 people in favour of leftist policies are demonstrating. Your saying that a random right-wing police officer will just walk right up to a demonstrater and arrest someone or some people? How long do you think the cop will survive under the media pressure and in court for such an unlawful act?
Well, provided we had a media that wasn't STATE operated. Might want to add that to the bill.
(It seems we have a difference in interpertation.) |
| Date | 18:30:50, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | We will only support a compromise where police have to power to discuss violent meetings or gatherings. However, because of the subjective nature of this bill, we'd like more clarity as to what could and could not be prevented by police. |
| Date | 20:01:51, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | off course the riots would have possibly been prevented since the group of rioters wuld be a potential risk to public safety... but hey! why not! ANARCHY! WAHOO! |
| Date | 21:51:24, June 24, 2005 CET |
From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | Yeah! Go anarchy!
*opens the door to the capitol building and lets a mob enter and kill everyone in Parliament, oh wait, that's us!* |
| Date | 00:03:53, June 25, 2005 CET |
From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | non-government organizations... broad term ... i dont think we have any since well the labour unions are government funded so it is a governmental organization the LBSC is a also a government organization and you... well the exact same thing... |
| Date | 05:02:05, June 25, 2005 CET |
From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | If they're violent, they've commited a crime. If they're planning to commit a crime, then they've commited a crime. it's pretty simple.. Assembling isn't a crime. |
| Date | 14:32:42, June 25, 2005 CET |
From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Freedom of Assembly Bill | | Message | You cannot prevent a crime per se, except by luck. Freedom of assembly is an essential tennet of social democracy. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 346 |
| no | Total Seats: 404 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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