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Bill: Paramilitary Resolution

Details

Submitted by[?]: Gnazenal Phr'unt

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2258

Description[?]:

It has come to our attention that one party within Lodamun operates an armed paramilitary organisation. Recognizing that bullets and ballots do not go together, the National Front asks the Senate to back a resolution calling for the Black Peoples Party to disband the 'Peoples Army'. There is nothing wrong with citizens owning firearms or forming gun clubs, but for a party to openly admit it has a paramilitary wing is undesirable and must be stopped.

Resolution altered to the effect that it will be illegal for political parties to have militant wings organised as private armies.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:52:05, July 19, 2006 CET
FromConservative People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageWe oppose this. There is no problem in having a military wing. We ourselves have our little scout's club, the King's Guard, who have been with us for the entire time we have existed

Date21:21:36, July 19, 2006 CET
FromDemocratic Socialist Party of Lodamun
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageSupported.

Sorry BPP.

Date21:57:31, July 19, 2006 CET
FromGnazenal Phr'unt
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageCPP, there is a massive difference between something such as the scouts, and an organisation that is armed and trained to fight. Hoever if you consider the Kings Guard to be a paramilitary organisation, then they too would be added to the resolution.

Date03:07:37, July 20, 2006 CET
FromAlmighty Lodamunian Front (ALF)
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageI also support this resolution. The government should have a monopoly on the use of force. Allow the 'People's Army" to exist means there are alternative sources of power within the realm, which is not acceptable.

Date08:08:12, July 20, 2006 CET
FromBlack People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageI was going to take that off anyway... you don't need this bill, I haven't had time to really change things around.

Date08:25:28, July 21, 2006 CET
FromGnazenal Phr'unt
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageYeah, thats a good reason to remove the resolution.

Date07:49:22, July 22, 2006 CET
FromBlack People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageI already changed it if you didn't notice...

Date10:08:06, July 22, 2006 CET
FromGnazenal Phr'unt
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageBut currently there is nothing against you having an army in the future, so the resolution is still needed.

Date03:00:33, July 23, 2006 CET
FromConservative People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageWe still think politics and militias and a nice combination.. and if the King's Guard is affected by this law, we will simply cut the organisational tie we have with them and they can continue alone though in line with the party

Date03:19:44, July 23, 2006 CET
FromBlack People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageFirst of all the People's Army(PA) wasn't owned by the BPP, we were linked to the PA and funded it. If we had a militia it would be called something else for only BPP members, unlike the PA which was an organization which had just normal people in it. the BPP does agree that no party should own a paramilitary wing but this bill is only against the BPP and that's not fair when we can't form things but everyone else can...so even if this law is passed the PA will still exist just as it has existed for a long time because we didn't own it.

Date03:22:25, July 23, 2006 CET
FromBlack People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageFirst of all the People's Army(PA) wasn't owned by the BPP, we were linked to the PA and funded it. If we had a militia it would be called something else for only BPP members, unlike the PA which was an organization which had just normal people in it. the BPP does agree that no party should own a paramilitary wing but this bill is only against the BPP and that's not fair when we can't form things but everyone else can...so even if this law is passed the PA will still exist just as it has existed for a long time because we didn't own it.

Date19:33:04, July 23, 2006 CET
FromGnazenal Phr'unt
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageThe PA is forced to disband by the passage of this bill.

Date00:07:44, July 24, 2006 CET
FromBlack People's Party
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageThey wren't owned by the BPP, we just stopped funding them, so I don't think they are really disbanded.

Date10:53:03, July 24, 2006 CET
FromGnazenal Phr'unt
ToDebating the Paramilitary Resolution
MessageThe BPP funded them, no other party did so, the BPP owned them. The BPP stopped funding them once this Resolution was introduced. This resolution disbands them, this resolution has passed, so they are disbanded.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 513

no
  

Total Seats: 187

abstain
  

Total Seats: 1


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