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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of April 2257
Details
Submitted by[?]: Barmenistan Nationalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2258
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Barmenistan Communist Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Barmenistan Communist Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Barmenistan Communist Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the New Democratic Initiative of Barmenistan
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Barmenistan Communist Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Barmenistan Nationalist Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Barmenistan Nationalist Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Barmenistan Communist Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Barmenistan Nationalist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the New Democratic Initiative of Barmenistan
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the New Democratic Initiative of Barmenistan
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the New Democratic Initiative of Barmenistan
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Barmenistan Nationalist Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:59:16, July 20, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Communist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | Sorry, comrades, but we cannot give you both Foreign Affairs and Defense. |
| Date | 20:22:16, July 20, 2006 CET | From | New Democratic Initiative of Barmenistan | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | Why not, BCP? |
| Date | 20:41:36, July 20, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | Indeed, why does the BCP occupy all major ministerposts in the current cabinet themselves ? |
| Date | 01:00:54, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Communist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | Because we've got the biggest penis. |
| Date | 01:28:40, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | BCP, you control Finance. That is the most important posotion of all. And you're given Head Of State. |
| Date | 05:58:01, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Communist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | Yes, and? We're pretty content with the current setup as is, actually. And unless you want to go gallivanting off with the Liberals and Tories, I don't think you have much political leverage here. Sorry to be blunt, but seeing as how you've chosen to ignore our attempts at communication with your party in the past, we're not all that inclined to help you at the moment. |
| Date | 06:22:03, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | The NP is right. The BCP gained less seats over the years but the number of BCP-cabinetposts did not change. Even so, they kept all key-positions in the cabinet. A bit more respect for the wishes of the electorate would be appropiate, BCP. |
| Date | 14:35:26, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Communist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | What do you think we're doing with our "Communist Reorientation" series? Listen, we're not a benevolent aid society--we're a political party with an agenda and a plan for Barmenistan. It's not our job to help any other political party gain political advantage unless it is also to our own political advantage to do so. In this case, we see no reason to change the composition of the cabinet. |
| Date | 19:45:52, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | It is a stalinist way of reasoning...obtaining power above everything else with no respect for others. |
| Date | 20:14:50, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Communist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | No, that's a capitalist way of reasoning. And who is this Stalin you keep mentioning, anyway? I've looked him up in my Terran encyclopedia, and there's no mention. |
| Date | 20:17:18, July 21, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Communist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | We've attempted to offer the NP a hand of friendship on a couple of different occasions, but our messages have always gone unanswered. It seems to me, BLP, that you're the one who doesn't respect any of the other parties--you're constantly making us vote over and over again on proposals that have been defeated time and again, that the people of Barmenistan don't want, and that, frankly, expose you as the greedy Capitalist pigs that you are--interested in selling off the entire country and government to the highest bidder, undermining our democracy and turning us into a proto-fascist corporate state. |
| Date | 01:03:02, July 22, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | We would like to advise you to buy a more recent encyclopedia. Regarding your other remarks we are just using our democratic rights to bring important proposals to the vote. That's what our electorate expects us to do. Besides that, we have become the largest party in our beloved nation and may we remind you that we hold the presidency for the third time in a row. |
| Date | 01:08:18, July 22, 2006 CET | From | Barmenistan Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | "Yes, and? We're pretty content with the current setup as is, actually. And unless you want to go gallivanting off with the Liberals and Tories, I don't think you have much political leverage here. Sorry to be blunt, but seeing as how you've chosen to ignore our attempts at communication with your party in the past, we're not all that inclined to help you at the moment." We have been politicial allies for some time, maybe you should try acting like it, instead of like my party is your subordinate. Your failure to compromise could end up with you in no cabinet at all. Simply put, I (as well as the NDIB) are the reason why you aren't a complete failure. You should try learning some diplomacy if you are ever to get anywhere. I shall be discussing with BLP a new cabinet, but it is not too late. Continue with the path of arrogance, and you shall pay dearly. |
| Date | 22:37:47, July 22, 2006 CET | From | Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of April 2257 |
| Message | Although we cannot support the policies of this BCP lead cabinet we do compliment the non-communist parties for their attempt to form a majority cabinet. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 204 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 546 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
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