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Bill: Secularisation Act of May 2258
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2259
Description[?]:
A bill to ensure that there is complete separation of church and state and individuals are not forcefully subjected to religious practices at work, home, or school. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 03:47:25, July 23, 2006 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Secularisation Act of May 2258 |
Message | The IPC acknowledges that the school prayer issue is open to debate. There are reasonable arguments on both sides. However, the IPC feels that the ability of religions to organize schools if they see fit is inseperable from the basic rights of freedom of religion and freedom of assembly. Accordingly, we have no choice but to oppose this bill. |
Date | 04:13:41, July 23, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Secularisation Act of May 2258 |
Message | As per current statutes, religions have no inherent rights to freedom of collective speech, and are limited to personal evangelism in recruiting efforts. It is a grave violation of the rights of the child to place them in a position whereby they are subjected to peer and authority figure pressure to participate in certain practices that answer to a specific religious or political doctrine. |
Date | 04:29:14, July 23, 2006 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Secularisation Act of May 2258 |
Message | Looking to current statutes to define inherent rights is one area where the IPC feels that the IGP has gone wrong. |
Date | 23:43:59, July 23, 2006 CET | From | Ikradonian Faith Party | To | Debating the Secularisation Act of May 2258 |
Message | In light of this proposal, which we oppose staunchly, the IFP will retract its support for the IGP's cabinet proposal. |
Date | 04:29:25, July 24, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Secularisation Act of May 2258 |
Message | Where else are rights to be defined? If we define our own rights on an individual basis, they mean nothing to anyone but ourselves. This is a democracy, and for better or for worse, the Ikradoni people have determined their collective rights. That is not, however, the question at hand. The question is whether or not we can, in good conscience, allow children to be forcefully subjected to religious acts with which they might not agree or feel comfortable. No one should have the right to impress religion or religious activities upon anyone else. |
Date | 05:16:23, July 24, 2006 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Secularisation Act of May 2258 |
Message | By the same logic, you might argue why the children should be subjected to pornography. The IPC is willing to trust families, schools, and the children themselves to make the decisions as to what information chilfdren should have access to. *Requiring* prayer is not allowed by current law -- simply organizing it, however, is. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 181 | |||
no | Total Seats: 283 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 135 |
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