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Bill: Legalize Abortion

Details

Submitted by[?]: Party of the Beluzian People

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2073

Description[?]:

This Legislature must recognize that it is the right of the Beluzian People, and not politicians, to regulate whether or not they are allowed to have abortions. While later abortions should not be allowed, as the fetus becomes more and more human, first semester abortions are when the fetus is defidentally not a full human, not able to last on its own, having very few of the same features as humans, etcetera. While its arguable in the second trimester, we must allow women to get rid of a child they do not want to care for at the beginning of their pregnancy.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:29:20, June 25, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageBoo!

Date00:38:37, June 26, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageHere, here PPP, you suggest murder PBP - now we know what were dealing with!

Date10:24:05, June 26, 2005 CET
FromFree Beluzians
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageOOC: PBP, please be aware that Beluzia is a right-wing country whose population is deeply religious. This wouldn't go over very well :D

Date10:58:26, June 26, 2005 CET
FromParty of the Beluzian People
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessagePAL does not seem to realize what murder is; It is the illegal killing of humans. If this were passed, it would not be illegal. Fetuses are not humans anyways, not in the first trimester.

OOC: Well, I cant exactly be mainstream; We have plenty of people like that already.

Date22:54:34, June 26, 2005 CET
FromNeo-Marxist revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageSince I had initially proposed this bill and got it passed, before it was replaced by the current legislation the NMRP will support this bill.

Date23:18:43, June 26, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageBeluzia needs babies! Babies are our future! All children have a brisk and active future awaitiung them with the Peoples Youth Squad!

Advocates of satanic child sacrifice, our betrayers to ba'al, they are who we must abort!

Save babies, kill traitors! Beluzia unite!

Date03:00:38, June 27, 2005 CET
FromParty of the Beluzian People
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageThe PPP believes it is above the law; Despite their voting power, they are delusional and both them and the PYS will never amount to anything.

Date15:38:00, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageKeep up with the sedition, and you'll find a tazerbaton at your back!

Date19:19:16, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageNo.1 PBP - don't kid yourself by the phrase "they are delusional and both them and the PYS will never amount to anything" the PPP was the largest party for three (I think??) years running so they do have and will...

No.2 Lying is still lying even if lying is allowed it just means that it is tolerated. Murder is therefore murder even if it is allowed, it is just tolerated.

No.3 At three months the baby is a bundle of cells and then suddenly the day later it becomes a human being able to think and behave in lots of different ways. This assumption is being made from the quote - "Fetuses are not humans anyways, not in the first trimester." I'm confused.

No.4 This country is not right-wing -

I am right-wing but I am not the country, I'm simply one party.
The NMRP is socialist
The FSC and LCP communist
The MNCP are (I think?) slightly right of centre
You and the FBP are... well I'm not sure really
And the PPP is right-wing, left-wing, take-it-how-you-like-wing

Date19:20:02, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageWell that not be strictly true about the PPP but I didn't want to say fasci... sorry

Date20:18:03, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageThe PPP is Populist! See:

http://www.answers.com/topic/populism?method=6

Date20:19:41, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageSORRY

Date20:20:09, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageI see the "People" are fasci... sorry

Date20:26:02, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageThe Peoples Populist Party is beyond left and right; we support the Power of the People to struggle against their barbarous master... daily!

With every every hour's passing, dozens of individual peoples youth strike squads stomp out sedition, our perpetual raids keeping the thought criminals on the run!

Our police union and military industrial support give the PPP the freedom to kick traitor ass!

Date20:32:24, June 27, 2005 CET
FromPartisans And Artisans League
ToDebating the Legalize Abortion
MessageTraitor ass = Communists and airy-fairy wishy-washy two-toed webbed-feet nonsense talkers?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 44

no
   

Total Seats: 145

abstain
     

Total Seats: 111


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