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Bill: Dropout age
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Libertarian party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2073
Description[?]:
Recognizing that if we force our children to stay in school, then they will not learn, instead opting to sleep, or not listen. wasting our education budget. Also, there are people who choose to educate themselfs, free from the resrictions of regulated schooling. If we allow them to do such, then we reduce our education budget expontenally.
Also, if a person drops out, then they must find a job or a different form of schooling within three months time.
Also, Employers can't force a student to leave school in order for them to offer them a job.
Also, Any study that a student chooses to partake in, even after they "Drop out" will be funded by the government, within resonable limits. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:13:42, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | Also, our people are considered adults at sixteen, so they shouldn't be forced to be schooled |
| Date | 12:05:52, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | We will agree with this proposal, if you insert a clause that says they must then get onto an apprenticeship or other job. We can't accept young adults on the dole instead of school. |
| Date | 12:39:18, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | We do not accept this, an educated society is an elightend society, and it is an invalid argument that people over the age of 16 do not benefit from education of some kind. |
| Date | 16:17:02, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | some people are forced to quit school and start working at some point so i would rather have this later while they're study is financed then that we have a huge group of almost uneducated individuals. |
| Date | 16:43:59, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | In order for students to be provided with the best education possible, I suggest secondary school education should be completely customised to the student's needs. We should also raise the dropout age from 18 to include post-secondary education either as university, college or an apprenticeship in the trade/career they wish to pursue and not rather, what is forced upon them. |
| Date | 18:28:12, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | Gah, we don't know. We'll abstain until voting matures and we'll see how it goes from there. |
| Date | 21:51:02, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | If people don't want to learn, then they won't. I've seen it occur often at my old school. |
| Date | 23:33:32, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | That's where mind altering drugs come into it....
I always found that such people you fail academically thrive in pratical education, apprentaships and suchlike. This system ensures that every adult has a skill that they have fully mastered, making Darnussia home to a highly skilled workforce. |
| Date | 11:08:25, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | You weren't aware that you were forced and what I meant is that you cannot tell a mature adult to learn against his will. You can put him in school, but he won't retain anything. You can lead a horce to water, but you cannot make him drink. |
| Date | 11:11:39, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | Social Libertarian party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | Did you even go to high school? maybe NONE of your freinds didn't want to be there, but a lot of the people I knew just did not want to learn, and they didn't, they failed every class untill they were eighteen, or sixteen if their parents allowed them. It's pretty simple, all the people who don't want to learn will leave, leaving a better learning environment for everyone else and saving us money. Those who don't get to be our laborers. whee! |
| Date | 15:27:36, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | i have been to high school, yes and almost nobody liked school (surprise!), beceause they're teens! they're supposed to dislike school! |
| Date | 15:32:54, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | We cant support this bill, because of the unemployment problems it would create for young people. |
| Date | 06:16:33, June 28, 2005 CET |
From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Dropout age | | Message | Completely irrelevant: I just finished my first year of high school and I have to say the environment is far more pleasant than elementary school. Whereas in elementary school I felt everyday like burning the school down, in high school we had charismatic and attentive teachers who still provided a high level of difficulty but set an atmosphere with a bit of humour to make it more enjoyable and yet still help and provide students with a challenge and made sure everybody learned something by the end of the class, no matter how smart they are. Though I guess that is because I took all Academic courses (except for Dramatic Arts which is open, we had the toughest drama teacher in the whole area but it was also worthwhile in the end). Overall, the best year of school I have had. And it wasn't just the educational part. |
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| yes | Total Seats: 70 |
| no | Total Seats: 680 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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