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Bill: Religious Schools Provision
Details
Submitted by[?]: We Say So! Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2073
Description[?]:
| In order to continue to allow freedom of choice to our pupils we will allow the operation of Religious schools. These schools will, however, be strictly regulated and will not receive any form of Government subsidy, as is the norm for all privately operated Scholastic institutions. As with all other schools in the Country they will be required to maintain the National Curriculum at all levels, and will still be required to operate the same examinations as any other schools, with no exceptions. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are not allowed.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:27:04, June 26, 2005 CET | From |   Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Will these schools be funded at all by the government? I don't believe any government funds should go to funding them. |
| Date | 14:05:24, June 26, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | No intention of...I'll add that to the bill. |
| Date | 14:33:10, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Ok, I see no reason to oppose privately funded, and regulated religious schools. How do we choose which religions to allow to have schools? Are there a group of "recognized" religions or should we just use common sense about it? |
| Date | 14:57:19, June 26, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | At the moment I don't believe we have any "recognised religions" nor, to be fair, should we. As soon as you start saying "this is a recognised religion, this isn't" we start to have the problems with why we recognise one over another etc, etc. Perhaps it should be down to the way in which they are regulated? |
| Date | 19:22:30, June 26, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | I believe that by introducing privately funded, religious schools, this is a step in the direction of private education and the like. The USM believes in free, stste funded education for all children, and reject a two-tier education system that would be brought upon by private schooling. Everyone should be free to practice their own religion, but I am of the opinion that this is a private matter and should not be brought into the school environment. |
| Date | 23:07:36, June 26, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Whatever... We will accept this as it is following the example of the current educational practices in Hobrazia as demonstarted in our laws on private schools. |
| Date | 02:37:44, June 27, 2005 CET | From | El Partido de Che | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | I'm not that into organized religion. |
| Date | 17:32:06, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Why bother? The existence of private religious schools introduces a dangerous precedent for a two-tier education system, and so long as personal (not collective) worship in the state education system is not restricted there is no need for religious schools. |
| Date | 18:02:15, June 27, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | What is the concern about a multiple tier education system? All schools, be they operated by the State or operated Privately or even home taught, are all required to follow the same basic guidelines as set out by the National Curriculum. In what way is there a two-tier education system, unless of course you believe that our State schools aren't very good... |
| Date | 18:05:22, June 27, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Its the idea that you can pay for a better education (eg private schooling). This option is not available to those on the poverty line. Private schooling is not the way forward for Hobrazia. |
| Date | 18:07:00, June 27, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Its the idea that you can pay for a better education (eg private schooling). This option is not available to those on the poverty line. Private schooling is not the way forward for Hobrazia. |
| Date | 18:07:22, June 27, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Apology for the accidental double post comrades. |
| Date | 18:15:58, June 27, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | Double posts happen, don't worry. Our private schools aren't any better. You might notice that many of the Bills proposed by the WSS!P are about education as we believe it to be extremely important. However, the current system we have in Hobrzia is to allow choice. We have every intention of making all State schools as good as any Private intitution, however it is a fact that many people prefer to use private schools, whether they are better or not. Within the confines of the religious schools, religion is not a high priority within the Hobrazian School system. We don't have teacher led prayers, however, there are always some who wish their children to be brought up within a religious environment (we would highlight the Constituency of Zargundia as a case in point). Should they wish to have religion included within their education, they should be allowed, but it should merely no be a priority over their education. This bill is merely for choice, nothing else. |
| Date | 22:40:12, June 27, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Religious Schools Provision |
| Message | I can see your point, yes, but the issue here about private religious schools is that there will be families wanting children brought up in a religious environment, but simply cannot afford the bills. This creates a two-tier system in my eyes and is extremely unfair. It is for that reason that I have to say 'no' to this Bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 118 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 19 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 263 |
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