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Bill: Public Representation Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Militant Labour Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2074
Description[?]:
This bill recognises the problem of embourgeoisement with regards to elected officials. If an elected official is to represent their constituency properly, they must receive a similar income.
Therefore, we propose that all representatives in Parliament be paid the average wage of a skilled worker, plus necessary expenses.
There will be a moratorium on the sponsoring of elected officials by private individuals or businesses. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:13:46, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Kellarly Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | Is this equal for the whole of parliment inc. minister and the HoG or is it based on a levelled system accounting for the increased responsibility that each position has?
I suspect I know your answer already i just want it clarified. |
Date | 16:46:00, June 26, 2005 CET |
From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | It should not be totally equal for the whole of parliament. Extra expenses will inevitably be accrued in a position of that nature and there must be restricted variables in income to account for the extra workload. But this must not be an excessive variable as it would inevitably disillusion the masses from the ministers and head of government and vice versa. |
Date | 06:14:03, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | Backed. As of this date, the Communist MPs will voluntarily accept the wage provided for by this bill, donating the balance of their salaries to the Communist Party. |
Date | 07:20:10, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | Wages should reflect the amount, quality, and difficulty of the work required.
Thus I believe members of parliament should be payed more than the average.
HOWEVER, the main reason that I will not back this bill, is because this is yet another attempt to overthrow the government for a worker state. |
Date | 07:38:40, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | Libertarian Socialist Federation | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | Agreed. We of the Libertarian Socialist Federation, following the lead of the Communist Party, will accept a flat wage for all members and any extra money will go to worthwile causes. |
Date | 13:01:42, June 27, 2005 CET |
From | Federal Technocrats | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | Basically, a key flaw in the theory of such egalitarianism. Politicians are above the people, by being elected by the people they have shown that they are more than just one person, but are the political avatar of their entire constituency. If you ever give the populace the impression that politicians aren't higher status, then those in equally powerful positions such as the military can easily overthrow the government given their greater importance. Plus, pay is equal to responsibility, we agree with SP. |
Date | 02:23:30, June 28, 2005 CET |
From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | Could it be put on record that the members of parliament representing the Federal Technocrats consider themselves above the people? This, in the wonderful open democracy that is Hutori. |
Date | 07:13:49, June 28, 2005 CET |
From | Federal Technocrats | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | A quick reminder. We presonally are meritocrats. By the nature of our democracy, the people have decided that WE are better suited than they to play a part in ruling the nation. Yes, we're better, and the people democratically said so. |
Date | 14:46:58, June 28, 2005 CET |
From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | This demonstrates the flawed nature of the democracy we live in. The people have not decided we are better suited than they to play a part in ruling the nation. They have elected representatives to represent their interests because it is their only democratic opportunity, save for the presidential election. However, these structures were not put into place by the people. They suit the bourgeois oppressors that we live under. |
Date | 19:32:09, June 28, 2005 CET |
From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | You have to study like every other member of the public. With heavily funded universities there's an equal opportunity to follow the path into politics. Ministers can not take bribes, nor work extra, it is reasonable for them to take a salary which renders both of these unecessary. |
Date | 23:07:51, June 28, 2005 CET |
From | Sanctaphrax Party (Mod) | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | This seems a worthwhile cause, and one we will back. This would however come into effect after this term I trust, as you cannot change it halfway through a term. |
Date | 01:48:00, June 29, 2005 CET |
From | Federal Technocrats | To | Debating the Public Representation Act | Message | We cannot conscionably support this bill, given our firm belief in meritocratic principles. As such, from now on all of our members will begin working part time to supplement their income in accordance with our principles. |
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Seats |
yes | Total Seats: 143 |
no | Total Seats: 62 |
abstain | Total Seats: 22 |
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