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Bill: Health Research Encouragement Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Centrist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2074
Description[?]:
| The benefits of cloning are legion, however, genetic and biological researchers currently face hoards of regulations. These regulations are strangling research. They make it extremely expensive to undertake, very lengthy to run, and less likely to get results. The Likaton Future Party therefore proposes that all cloning regulations be stripped back to the bare minimum, consisting only of a personal and equipment check. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards the cloning of human beings.
Old value:: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Current: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Proposed: Research in cloning technologies is not regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:07:40, June 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | It just says regulated. It doesnt say how much. If you are proposing a minimum level of regulation, (just enough, I hope, to ensure the safety of participants) then I am more than happy to support as an ammendment, but that still comes under regulation, and therefore does not require a change of this article. |
| Date | 17:10:33, June 26, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | The minimal level of regulation we are proposing is the equivalent of saying, "don't smoke in a gunpowder factory". If you pass a law forbidding cigarettes inside of gunpowder factories, are you regulating gunpowder production? Not at all. |
| Date | 20:53:21, June 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | There are too many moral issues involved here ...we will firmly oppose leaving this to mad scientists |
| Date | 23:07:35, June 26, 2005 CET | From | mutt Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | Its a no vote from us. |
| Date | 10:59:11, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | The cloning of human beings, even animals is in contrast to our moral principles. This will get a no vote from us, we even propose to prohibit the research in cloning technologies. |
| Date | 11:10:33, June 27, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | All of you who oppose on "moral issues" are holding back our country. Through cloning techniques, nerve tissue, skin, and even whole limbs can all be regrown if they are damaged. And that's just the older technologies. Imagine what we would lose in terms of potential lifespan and health care quality by losing that. It's the 70's now, and your attitudes are still back in the turn of the century. Times have changed. This is no longer a new and dangerous technology. It is an established and beneficial medical technology. |
| Date | 17:42:44, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | Slippery slope. I would prefer it to be regulated, and not for moral issues but just on the grounds that if there is no limit, we will be opening a pandora's box. We have to have some limitation. I am in full favour of stemcell research, but I have issues with clones because there is too much potential for abuse and we don't have the technology yet. I'd rather see further developments in biometrics and stemcell research rather than cloning. |
| Date | 19:44:33, June 27, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | PSD: I repeat, this is not the year 2000, when anything cloned was guaranteed to die early. It has been 70 years since then. 70 years of research, even fettered research, more or less guarantees the safety of a practice. Of course, perhaps you refer to the occasional mishap involved in any genetic engineering project. I'd like to inform you that people do occasionally get blood-borne diseases from vaccinations. Yet we support and even encourage people to be vaccinated against diseases. There is always room for abuse and room for mistakes. I'll repeat, we have the technology, we can improve the health of our citizens, there is no reason to continue tight regulation on something that has been a proven technology for decades. |
| Date | 19:50:23, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | I still do NOT support cloning. It's just kind of really squicky... I see it as a slippery slope with too much room for potential abuse and aexploitation by those who have money vesus those who are disadvantaged. And without regulation, there could be consequences that are irreversible. BUT!! LFP, I already said I support eveyrthing BUT cloning. And I'd prefer it to be regulated. I'd prefer to see the money go into stemcell and embryonic research rather than cloning. |
| Date | 14:00:03, June 28, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | Alright, fine. It's a shame I can't have your support on this. I'll bring this to vote, mostly to confirm my stance publicly. |
| Date | 17:07:58, June 29, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | Early election disrupted voting, going back to vote. |
| Date | 11:01:30, June 30, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | LFP this is 70 years of people realising GM and GE products have crossed spices and changed genetic structures by themselves and Allergic reactions spring up everywhere as people think they are eating a Potato yet its laced with Peanuts. |
| Date | 01:30:20, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Health Research Encouragement Bill |
| Message | NO. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 41 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 159 | ||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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