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Bill: Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kanjoran Socialist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2286
Description[?]:
| I invite parties to sit down and hammer out a new set of codes for Kanjorans religious matters. These initially are the ones I approve, but will make changes based on the input of other parties. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Current: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Proposed: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Proposed: Religious taxation policy is left to the local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: It is not permitted to wear religious clothing or religious symbols in public buildings.
Current: Wearing religious clothing or religious symbols in public is illegal.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are not allowed.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Proposed: The remuneration of ministers of religion shall be left up to the local governments.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: Any form of religion is banned.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:36:15, September 17, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | Artical 1: It is so we do not have foreign nationals just meandering around in Kanjor and Stirring up trouble. Missionaries must register when they arrive and leave, and what intent they have on establishing missions as well as religious doctrine etc. Artical 2, 3, 6: Individual states should decide taxation, remuneration, and appointment of religious leaders to establish a strong local tradition amongst the populace. If the people of Zanyal want appointed ministers; then let them have what they want. If people in Sovalt doesn't want state intervention, then give them what they want. It isn't right to impose upon the whole nation just because of one or more parties religious beliefs or political ideologies. Artical 4: It should not be unlawful to wear religious symbols in public buildings, it's not like they hurt anybody. Artical 5: While I believe in alot of state soveriegnty, we must make sure that our kids are being taught right. Religious schools should only be allowed for approved major religions. We don't want somebody teaching our kids some whackjob ideology Artical 7: It should be the schools' idea what should happen within its walls. If it allows teacher led prayers then great, it will draw religious families. If it doesn't then people who don't want prayer in school will go to it. instead. Artical 8: I think in being called the Holy Kanjoran Empire, that we adopt an official religion. |
| Date | 01:37:13, September 17, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | those are my reason, I invite KIP and the Christians to sit down and refute what they don't like or what they would want changed, or stricken. This bill is to adress religious concerns in the nation, and should be taken seriously. |
| Date | 14:47:47, September 17, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | Furthermore, if there is no answer, then this will be sent to be voted on by the legislature. |
| Date | 02:20:10, September 18, 2006 CET | From | Restauration Archonique du Kanjor | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | I want this passed for RP purposes, but I can't vote for it because it will mess up my already-deformed visibility. I hope that the CSU votes to pass this, perhaps without the federalism if it suits his prefrences. |
| Date | 10:32:56, September 18, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | Ok, I will put it up for vote, thankyou for supporting. We support a morally strong, religious state. |
| Date | 15:54:56, September 18, 2006 CET | From | Restauration Archonique du Kanjor | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | well, I'll have to vote 'no,' but that won't prevent it from passing. I think that at some point we should have a mandatory state religion... if the CSU is ever revived, maybe it could happen. Would you support the stance? |
| Date | 10:56:02, September 19, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Conference on Kanjoran Religious Matters |
| Message | Not mandatory |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 18 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 17 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 40 |
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