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Bill: Health Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: We Say So! Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2080
Description[?]:
| The introduction of a fully funded Government backed, free at point of requirement National Health Service (hereby referred to as the NHS) to be paid for and supported by National Insurance contributions taken by direct taxation of the populace. Within the remit of the NHS will be (but not limited to): - Local General Practioners and their practices. - Dentists, Orthodontists and their practices. - Physiotherapy and Chiropractor clinics and their related staff. - A Nationally supported hospital network providing the full range of health care needs including, but not limited to, surgical facilities, X-ray facilities, Accident and Emergency facilities and Wards, Recovery Wards etc. - Pharmacies. - Ambulance and Paramedic vehicles and staff. - Drug production, where cost effective. - All agencies directly related to medical care will also be contained within the public sector (e.g. hospital cleaners, food providers etc). Private clinics are allowed to operate outside of the NHS, however they are strictly regulated to guarentee the highest standard of health care to all citizens. Private clinics will be limited to carrying out non-essential operations and treatments including: - Non-essential cosmetic surgery. Should the Public Sector reach the position of overload, then the Private Sector is required to provide any and all cover to the patients involved. Restitution will be provided to said Private facility at operating cost. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | not recorded | From | Socialist Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | such economical points will later be implented in the game. We plea for a health servise that is fully free to everyone. |
| Date | not recorded | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | We will vote for this |
| Date | not recorded | From | People's Party of Oppressive Liberation | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | The PPOL is concerned of the costs of such a system, and could only support such if it can be shown that it will not place an undo fisical burden on the Peoples. |
| Date | not recorded | From | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | UCT will vote in favour of this bill. |
| Date | 23:55:37, May 03, 2005 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | We are also in favor of such legislation. |
| Date | 20:09:14, May 06, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I favour this bill. |
| Date | 06:26:41, May 26, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | What sort of coverage would this proposed service vouch for? Only prescribed operations and routine check-ups, or operations and services requested by Average Joe? |
| Date | 21:26:25, May 28, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | Think of the NHS. It provides free at point of need health care, be it operations, GP check ups, prescriptions etc. The only time I can think of when things may become complicated are when there are things like unnecessary plastic surgery etc, at which point I would be open to discussion as to what the policy should be. |
| Date | 00:58:16, May 29, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I'm leaning toward favoring it. Plastic surgery is iffy due to strange circumstances such as congenital defects and disfiguring accidents. It would probably need to be up to the doctor, a sort of judgement call. Some sort of policy or guideline should probably be drafted to the effect of aiding that judgement call, though... |
| Date | 01:56:24, May 29, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I was leaning toward something along the lines of: "plastic surgery would only be accepted in the case of disfiguring injury or, but not limited to, recommendation of surgical team", or something along those lines. We'll provide a full provision and guideline once the proposals are available, that way we can match exactly whats written to the best proposal. |
| Date | 15:13:47, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Rural Democratic Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I'm all in favour of free healthcare for the nation, with the same provisos about plastic surgery discussed above. Perhaps the provision of fertility treatments would similarly be at the discretion of the doctor (based on likelihood of success weighed against distress caused to the patient and overall costs)? Would a second tier of private clinics be encouraged by the government to provide 'non-essential' medical services to the public, while primarily healthcare responsibilities are undertaken by the government's health service? |
| Date | 01:44:40, June 23, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | That would be close to the idea I was hoping for. To be honest, though I would love to have everything under a National Service operated solely by the Government in the best interests of the population, it would also be wrong of us to stop private clinics and hospitals existing and providing, as you say 'non-essential' services to the public should they wish to do so. |
| Date | 18:24:46, June 29, 2005 CET | From | Right Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | We will definitely vote for this bill.Free basic healthcare is essential for the welfare of all citizens. |
| Date | 16:22:49, July 05, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I agree we shouldn't ban private clinics, but what purpose would they serve if there is a free public system that provides the same quality of care? What incentive would there be for a private clinic to continue to operate? -meaning they will eventually destroy themselves and then there will be the complete nationalisation of the healthcare system. |
| Date | 17:11:42, July 05, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | The only issue we have with this bill is one of clarification. We feel that private clinics should only offer non-essential treatments eg. cosmetic surgery, and we would ask for this to be stated in the wording of the bill so that, for instance, private dental clinics do not begin to spring up. |
| Date | 17:12:04, July 05, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | To be fair, I haven't finished writing the bill, its got rather a lot to cover, but the private clinics can serve things that the public system doesn't in order to save costs, e.g. non-essential plastic surgery. Also in RL private clinics and hospitals often operate alongside nationally operated health services, the UK for example. Sometimes people just wish to go private, and we shouldn't stop them. |
| Date | 18:00:27, July 05, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | What about other important medical services, for example physiotherapy? Perhaps a general clause should be added to included services that we've haven't thought of. Otherwise it looks good. |
| Date | 18:22:38, July 05, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I should remember Physio, I've needed it often enough *rollseyes* |
| Date | 18:32:29, July 12, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | If there's anything I missed on here (and there invariably is) then we can add it as a suplimentary ammendment at a later date... |
| Date | 18:37:04, July 12, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | Private clinics will only be allowed to carry out non-essential operations? Sounds alright, but we'll push to prevent private clinics at a later date. |
| Date | 22:21:08, July 12, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | And I'll be pushing to keep it like it is. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 343 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 57 |
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