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Bill: Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073
Details
Submitted by[?]: Proletariat Revolution Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2075
Description[?]:
| Recognizing that population growth is favourable to keep the economy viable with a large labour force, the government Likatonia acknowledges the parents' role. Without a decent period of time for maternity and/or parental leave, many men and women choose to work rather than start a family. This act will designate two different leaves: maternity leave and parental leave. Maternity leave is that which an expectant mother takes. Parental leave is that which with father (or spouse) takes. Maternity leave will be 32 weeks of full paid leave. Parental leave will be 20 full paid weeks. Parental leave can be taken when maternity leave expires. This will allow the infant to stay at home longer. For those without a spouse, there is daycare as provided in the Daycare Act of 2071. Maternity and parental leave may exceed the set limit, however, if the person on either leave decides not to return immediately, they will not receive pay. In order for employees to gain back maternity and parental leave, they must return to work for at least eight months without applying for more. This act works with the Daycare Act of 2071 and the Contraceptives Act of 2073, to help encourage responsible population growth. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:40:58, June 29, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | There is a difference of twelve weeks, acknowledging that the expectant mother needs time off before she gives birth to her child(ren). The spouse only needs the prescribed 20 because they won't be needing to stay home before the birth. |
| Date | 21:24:51, June 29, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | could we say that the mother can take both if the father declines parental leave? otherwise it is giving an advantage to the children of two parent families. |
| Date | 22:12:11, June 29, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | I suppose it solves the problem I had with it. I can't figure out why I oppose now; it's more like a vague "that's wrong" impulse. Since I cannot bring a decent argument against, it would be immoral to vote no, and yet my moral compass says it would also be immoral to vote yes. I shall solve this dilemna by abstaining. |
| Date | 23:15:14, June 29, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | This proposal makes no sense: Making workers more expensive to hire only makes temporay workers more attractive. But temporary work is more unstable, and less suitable for family life, indeed a child's life. So what you will achieve is the very opposite of your otherwise good intentions. I must therfore regretfully turn down this bill. I would however, support the right to take unpaid paternal/maternal leave for 330 weeks. |
| Date | 23:16:30, June 29, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | Sorry, that should have read 30 weeks.. |
| Date | 23:56:12, June 29, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | Ah, I figured out what my problem with it was. The government should not support families, nor should it force companies to support them. People should support their families themselves. If they cannot do this, they should not have a family in the first place People who are irresponsible enough to have a child they cannot support aren't going to magically become good and responsible because the government supports them. |
| Date | 00:56:52, June 30, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | LPE: I included a clause that gives single parent familes preference in daycare. PP: no it won't. It works fine in Canada (yes, RL example, but, it does work). If there was unpaid, people wouldn't and it would lead to a decrease. We need something that is a happy medium. And with the cuts provided in the daycare act, it isn't more expensive, plus the daycare act provides incentive for people to go back sooner. LFP: yes, while it won't make people good parents, but it is unfair to the lower wage employees. We can't leave it so that only wealthy people can have families. This is geared so that all people can. Yes I gave the woman more (assuming that men don't give birth) because she will need time before and some after. |
| Date | 02:07:06, June 30, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | SLP: You do have a point, but I don't think it actually does restrict it to only wealthy people. Typically, the highest birth rates are among the poor, and that's even without maternity leave. What if that number gets worse? Oh, and good idea on the single parent preference to daycare. It's a good addition. OOC: Strangely enough, it is possible for a man to carry a pregnancy to term with no ill effects. Requires an artificially implanted egg and a cesarean operation, though. Somehow though, I don't think this will catch on, and thus I won't be using it as part of my stance on anything. |
| Date | 06:05:23, June 30, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | That's why I think making contraceptives free we can help the poor access them better. With it free, despite potential for abuse (since anything can be opened for it), if they know they have it and no paying is needed, they might be more willing to use it. Yes that number may get worse or better. But if they are paid, they may have incetive to return to work because they have an income. Those without see children as their income and thus have more. This should create more of a balance there. |
| Date | 14:25:00, June 30, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | Now that the hope and spirit act has been passed, we will be accomodating this by giving funds to organizations that build and maintain childcare facilities, or run them in co-operation with corporates. This bill is now useless, but I would welcome suggestions as where the money should go... |
| Date | 14:25:31, June 30, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | We can do subsidised condoms there too.. |
| Date | 16:19:30, July 01, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | How is this one useless? Hope and Spirit dealt with childcare?! |
| Date | 02:45:45, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | The CTP supports the growth and defense of family. This is not an unreasonable request from employers, and the child and parents both deserve to be given suitable time to care for their child and make the necessary arrangements. The CTP supports this measure. |
| Date | 05:50:15, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Parental & Maternity Leave Act of 2073 |
| Message | I oppose for two reasons 1:The idea that 2 people must work ie employed. 2:"In order for employees to gain back maternity and parental leave, they must return to work for at least eight months without applying for more." Why? this idea of responsible population growth is foolish. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 115 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 44 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 41 |
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