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Bill: PP Sales tax on luxury goods
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2296
Description[?]:
Revision of the sales tax on luxury goods. We intend to lower this value to 15%. In the future, we will reduce taxes and Government spending even more. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 19
Current: 40
Proposed: 15
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 16:33:41, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the PP Sales tax on luxury goods |
Message | "The Social Liberal Party agrees with low sales taxes and it increases consumer confidence. The Government's current surplus is absurd. The government is not doing it's job in making sure every citizen gets his fair share of opportunities in the economy and that is precisely where the surplus should be going to. We are in favour of a dynamic and free economy, with low sales taxes, however the central role of the government should be maximizing opportunities for everyone. Under the Social Liberal concept of governance, the central roles of the state should be the welfare element and the environment, leaving the rest to the markets and private enterprise. Our current welfare system resembles a 15th century state. It simply does not exist, and substantial improvements will be necessary to gain the Social Liberal Party's support. We will vote favourably to this proposal although we issue a warning. Our current tax revenue system of a flat tax of 10% for all citizens is in need of an overhaul. As far as the Social Liberal Party is concerned, any tax revision or budget that does not revert to a progressive tax system will not be supported by the Social Liberal Party." - Warren Buffett, SLP Finance expert. |
Date | 16:42:13, October 08, 2006 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the PP Sales tax on luxury goods |
Message | Of course. We do not want a public welfare system to exist. That would increase taxes instead of decrease them and, in our vision of economy, it would be unfair to those who do not need it. We reduce taxes, Government spending and we promote a welfare based on charity and in truly help to the poor and low-income. That's totally different of what you are saying. And, I would not classify your party as Social Liberal, by your positions I would say it is SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC. |
Date | 17:33:11, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the PP Sales tax on luxury goods |
Message | "Social Democratic? LOL. You do not understand Liberalism. What if I told you that I was previously quoting Adam Smith himself. "Government needs to focus on its proper role – the welfare element – and draw the market into providing the rest. The aim [of welfare] must be to re-integrate people into the workforce and make them self-sufficient. That means setting up work, housing, childcare and other support services round the individual." Adam Smith... And yes this is thee Adam Smith who said that, The Adam Smith who basically invented Liberal theory." The Policy we defend is Liberalism. The policy you defend is a mixture of anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism. Neither has anything to do with Liberalism. |
Date | 17:35:27, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the PP Sales tax on luxury goods |
Message | Furthermore the pioneers of the welfare state were Bismarck and Benjamin Disraeli. One was a Liberal and the other was UK conservative. Neither was a social-democrat nor were they ever supporters of collectivism. |
Date | 19:28:15, October 08, 2006 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the PP Sales tax on luxury goods |
Message | Our views on economy are laissez-faire. A laissez-faire economy does not defend a Welfare State nor a mixed economy. What the Social Liberal Party as defended as by now is precisely that. But ok, I guess the "Social" before the "Liberal" changes a lot of things... |
Date | 21:05:31, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the PP Sales tax on luxury goods |
Message | Lessez-faire economy is a utopian myth utilised to poorly justify corporate greed. There never has been a world without taxes and there never will be. The lines, views and policies of Social Liberalism or Modern Liberalism are very well defined. They are just unknown the general Portuguese population. In Portugal there is no center. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 223 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 77 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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