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Bill: Gun purchase bill

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party

Status^[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2088

Description^[?]:

Responding to the peoples calls for the right to own guns to be curtailed to those who only require them, we of the Neo-Marxist revolutionary party do propose legislation conforming to the peoples wishes. Moreover, considering the recent incident in the Province of Bailon whereby a young student decided upon a shooting spree, killing students and teachers indiscriminantly we of the Neo-Marxist revolutionary party feel it is imperative that this bill get passed and so no further tragic incident of this magnitude can ever be repeated.

Professions whereby it is deemed necessary for firearm usage are as follows:

Military and all subdivisions there of.
Police force of Beluzia.
Security firms will also be allowed to use firearms however they will be restricted to using only non-lethal firearms.

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.

Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.

Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.

Proposed: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	02:28:56, July 02, 2005 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	I assume you are aware that this applies to all PPP members and youth squads?

Date	21:53:37, July 02, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Quite aware. But since the youth squads are not recognised by the government or by parliament, and are likely to be considered a terrorist organisation being a paramilitary organisation and as such maybe put to death. I see no harm in attempting to dissuade our young people from becoming acquainted with the death penalty by enacting a piece of legislation in line with what the people wish.

Date	13:26:16, July 03, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	No guns should be allowed if there is a healthy recreational hunting industry within a country....and I'm going to say there is in Beluzia because it suits me to do so.

Date	13:28:24, July 03, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Hey NMRP I was wondering if you could clear out some old usless or obselete bills that you might have in the discussion like you cabinet proposal etc. Cheers.

Date	13:29:04, July 03, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	And from looking our current legislaion it would appear that we do. Although we do not agree that hunting should be allowed either, but that's a whole different debate.

Date	21:03:06, July 03, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Ah sorry had forgotten about that thing; although that is the only one that I have.

Date	12:00:35, July 05, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Yeah maybe we should get admin to clear out some of the old ones that are made by inactive parties.

Date	12:01:48, July 05, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	The SLP have tonnes so if we could get admin to remove them that would be good.

Date	12:02:08, July 05, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	or tons (depending where you come from)

Date	21:28:59, July 05, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Either or, I've seen both; don't know which you're supposed to use. It would be a good idea, especially considering some are months old now.

Date	21:29:19, July 05, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Putting up to vote?

Date	00:37:33, July 06, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	one is american and the other is british i think.

Date	00:37:56, July 06, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Voting is fine, but I'll oppose just so you know

Date	00:40:21, July 06, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	do you want me to contact admin?

Date	02:45:53, July 06, 2005 CET
From	Free Beluzians
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	The FBP polled its members, and has decided that they will vote for this bill after the following question has been answered: What professions would be deemed able to use a gun?

Date	19:53:02, July 06, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	This is rediculous - how do you intend hunters to hunt? Spear animals? Guns aren't bad - they have no personality - the people who kill others are bad. Why make them illegal anyway? All it serves to do is to take guns away from those who use them appropriately and responsibly, and yet crimnials will still have them because they will obtain them illegally. Harsher sentences for the misuse of guns is the answer - not banning a simple piece of mechanical equipment. Hundreds of Beluzians are killed each year by hands and fists; are you going to ban them as well? What, do you propose that we cut everyones' limbs off? "Hand in your hands today!" yeah...nice punchline...

Date	18:33:39, July 11, 2005 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	The peoples youth squad can make its own sub-machine guns and armor peircing rounds. We don't require permission from the communist puppet govt. !

Date	21:34:19, July 14, 2005 CET
From	Social-Liberal Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	All the more reason to pass this bill quickly and crack down on these vandals!

Date	00:21:34, July 15, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	There not vandals they are border guards - and good ones at that.

Date	18:01:31, July 15, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	No they are a paramilitary organisation that can be sentenced to death under the current legislation for terrorism.

Date	14:59:26, July 16, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Well yeah but... ;-)

Date	12:22:59, July 19, 2005 CET
From	Social-Liberal Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Bring this to vote?

Date	17:04:40, July 20, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	When I bring together a multi-historical group of freedom fighters for the gun, you will regret this liberal move. Long live Cowboys!

Date	17:32:10, July 20, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	The professions deemed able to use guns would be: the Police and Armed forces as stands I don't believe any other profession needs to use guns. Do please correct me if I'm wrong.

Date	18:03:37, July 20, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Hunters?

Date	18:04:27, July 20, 2005 CET
From	Social-Liberal Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	If the NMRP believes that these professions are strictly military- and police- related then the NMRP should amend its proposal and put this into the bill. We will support such anamendement, although we feel security firms should be able to have limited acces as well.

Date	18:04:31, July 20, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Bank robbers? Petty Criminals? Extortionists?

Date	18:31:56, July 20, 2005 CET
From	Social-Liberal Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	No. No. No.

Date	02:05:57, July 21, 2005 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	The Peoples Populist Party ''is'' a security firm.

Date	12:29:47, July 21, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Ah apologies I had forgotten about security firms. I'll amend it shortly.

Date	18:27:19, July 21, 2005 CET
From	Social-Liberal Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	If the bill just proposed by the SLP passes, the PPP will not be a security firm.

Date	10:27:07, July 22, 2005 CET
From	Beluzian Labor Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Labor supports a tough stance on gun ownership, and will support this bill.

Date	18:39:18, July 22, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	With regards to security firms however we would recommend that they only be allowed to use non-lethal weapons. They are after all not a govermental agency of any sort nor are they a military power.

Date	02:08:56, July 23, 2005 CET
From	Social-Liberal Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Agreed. I would like to ask the Neo-Marxists to put this in the bill.

Date	23:01:10, July 24, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	@PAL Cowboys were never freedom fighters and in reality if they ever dared use firearms on the ranches they would have been sacked.

Date	00:07:05, July 26, 2005 CET
From	Partisans And Artisans League
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	SILENCE!!!! This is a note to everyone. DO NOT spoil my romantic notions of a non-existant history cowboys = cool pirates = cool indians = cool samurais = cool ottaman bullfrog merchants = not cool see where I'm ging with this?

Date	01:46:14, July 27, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	But it's sooo much fun. ;-)

Date	23:05:54, July 28, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	I'm going to put this up for vote. However I have a horrible feeling it won't pass before the election.

Date	23:06:24, July 28, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Bollocks I didn't think it would.

Date	23:54:58, July 29, 2005 CET
From	Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party
To	Debating the Gun purchase bill
Message	Try again.

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Seats

yes

Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party (89)
Catholic Workers Movement (40)

Total Seats: 129

Total Seats: 99

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Free Beluzians (57)
Roman Republic Party (15)

Total Seats: 72

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