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Bill: Bill concerning the defence of the nation (second try)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Peoples Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2297
Description[?]:
| We should take certain meassures into account regarding the defence of our nation. These are some of these and should be considered by the parliament with serious thoughts on the defence of our borders and the protectin of our population. 1: We should have our soldiers focused on military warfare and emergency aid. Not creating a state sponsored dating service. Therefore there is no need to have marked people whether they belong to different sexual directions. The HHP believe that most of the people this law will affect is pleased that they will not be forced to tell anything about their private life. 2: We see no need to follow international law when the hobrazian law apply for these situations. Prisoners of war should be treated according to the laws of Hobrazia. If we are the captor power and we provide facilities etc. for the prisoners, it should be our own law that decide how to treat prisoners of war. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:53:27, October 10, 2006 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Bill concerning the defence of the nation (second try) |
| Message | These measures are just ridiculous. |
| Date | 14:33:47, October 11, 2006 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Bill concerning the defence of the nation (second try) |
| Message | "We should have our soldiers focused on military warfare and emergency aid. Not creating a state sponsored dating service. " - Are we the only ones to spot a gigantic flaw in this reasoning? Currently both male and female soldiers work together at all levels, but this causes no problems with operational effectiveness, so why would homosexuals cause any problems? |
| Date | 14:36:33, October 11, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Bill concerning the defence of the nation (second try) |
| Message | We should not ask people about their sexual orientation. This is the purpose of this bill. |
| Date | 18:38:00, October 11, 2006 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Bill concerning the defence of the nation (second try) |
| Message | And yet they would not be allowed to be openly homosexual yet a colleague can be openly hetrosexual. Currently they are not forced to tell anything about their sexual preferences but they may, should they wish, be open about them to colleagues. This bill does not allow them to do that and restricts the rights of homosexuals over hetrosexuals. |
| Date | 15:32:06, October 12, 2006 CET | From | HSP (Hobrazian Socialist Party) | To | Debating the Bill concerning the defence of the nation (second try) |
| Message | You should at least split the bills in case anyone wants to support you. I know I cant one either count. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 71 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 304 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 25 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow official national flags of real-life nations or flags which are very prominent and recognisable (eg. the flags of the European Union, the United Nations, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or the Confederate States of America). |
| Random quote: "We have a culture, a strong, vibrant, 'real' culture. Most of the outside world does not. They haven't bled enough for it." - Lászlo Nádašdy, former Deltarian nobleman |