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Bill: Secure Freedom Proposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2075
Description[?]:
| Likatonia needs an ID card so that we can distinguish properly between legal and illegal citizens, foreigners as well as threats.. Such cards will only be needed when there is official business such as registering a passport. In other words the police cannot demand to see your ID...they would have to produce you in court for that. The second change gives states the right to decide on a matter that is not acceptable to all parties of this nation... |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Current: Citizens are issued with identity cards on a voluntary basis.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: Civil marriages are defined by local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:12:00, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | No and no. How can you force someone to accept something that isn't secularly favourable? The latter is truly not favourable to human rights. The first, that is open to potential abuse so, why should we? THe system would then contain unncessary information, which would be purged and then we'd have to put it back on (since the cards are going to hold data). |
| Date | 16:34:49, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | I find the title of this bill amusing. 'Secure restriction of civil rights' might have been more applicable. Identity cards are the first step towards a controlling regime, and also expensive (damn new labour, damn them all), and by denying homosexuals the same rights as heterosexuals you are just descriminating - there is no other way of putting it. |
| Date | 18:21:00, July 02, 2005 CET | From | mutt Party | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | Although I agree with article 1(as long as we don't make the citizens pay for these, that's unfair), I will vote no because of article 2. |
| Date | 20:48:21, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | I will support this bill. |
| Date | 21:27:01, July 02, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | ID cards are a one time expense...$1 or $2 per person all paid for with Likatonian taxes.. I made it voluntary to carry it around, so I can't imagine how it would be abused...cops can't ask you to produce it, so its really just for official work... I can't imagine why that would sound so horrible... And the second is a natural extension of freedom...not everyone agrees about gay marriages, so why should there be an issue? Let gays have regular civil unions ...the world woon't end if that happens.. |
| Date | 22:37:43, July 02, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | We would prefer it to divide article 1 from article 2, putting them to vote into two different bills. Otherwise, SocialGreens will vote no. |
| Date | 00:41:22, July 03, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Secure Freedom Proposal |
| Message | Marriage is a Religous thing not a Government thing. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 33 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 126 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 41 |
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